🙂 hooray. rum all around.
remember in the 2003 Peter Pan, when Wendy kisses Peter just before she believes he is going to die? Her line there is "I'm sorry I must leave Neverland and grow up, but this belongs to you, and always will." It's as though she is saying her heart, in that moment, is purely his and belongs with him in neverland, which is a total parallel to the Liz/Jack kiss, because in that moment Elizabeth is acknowledging that she is going to leave Jack and "grow up" aka, make the tough choice, but its clear from the kiss where her heart lies at that moment.
thats just me rambling though. 🙂 i'm a sucker for really cinematic kisses.
so why did Johnny, designers, terry, gore or what not suddenly think.."ok lets put a fertility symbol on Jack's belt"? for DMC/AWE
and then even discuss it as if its a a subtle hint
also Kate..i personaly think that the last scene was suggesting her heart lies with Jack...imagining we dont know anything about AWE...
and in the commentary T&T both make the point that Will waits for her choice and then he makes his..they also say he spots her expression and is wiling to let everything drop so that she can be happy or something I cant remember properly
didnt they say that Elizabeth wouldnt make her final choice alone in AWE?
all the closure is supposed to be in DMC?? 😄
yes that seems like far too much evidence to ignore, honestly. the fertility symbol sounds really interesting.... 🙂
that closure line seems so clear as things not working out in a simple manner. just look at the contrast between the endings of 1 and 2. if the closure was really meant to imply will and liz living happily ever after, it would have been more similar to the ending in 1.
the facts are, elizabeth chose to save Will but her heart lies off the edge of the map. she would risk everything to bring back Jack (and whether thats because she loves him or might love him or is just really good friends with him or just plain feels guilty is immaterial, because the point is, whatever she is feeling at that point is strong enough to push her to risk everything she's got.).
yeah I agree..and it interests me how they dont actually mention what is going on through Lizzies mind..and they also dont talk a lot about Jack either and what is going through his mind in some scenes where it looks like sometig major is going through it..like his ending
Oh also it says Will is willing to just not think abou himself and allow Liz to go..if I remember correctly..
Also..You know what..this whole thing about Jack and his ship not resembling freedom anymore??? Isnt that just what the dutchman reprosents to its captain? They cant leave it
It suggests Jack doesnt want that kind of life anymore where he's just tied to his ship
they say that in movie 1 Jack used Liz to escape from shackles and that its tied in with the end of DMC....Jack is shackled to his ship does he see liz an escape from that to him?
LOL
Gibbs:
"for the love of mother and child Jack WHATS coming after us?" - Jack says "nothing"..and there's a subtle change in the music and he looks at Gibbs as if he's a weirdo for saying that to him 😂
" if becket controls the chest he controls the sea, and bad! bad for every mother's son who calls himself pirate" - to Jack and Liz..liz gives a weird look to Jack here..gibbs looks at the sails twice for some reason and says something about them..may come into play later..
on the canibal island scene I think they cut a line where Jack says "so where are all the cannibal children?"
or something..but it appears on the disney website game
Are these references to children supposed to imply Jack feels his biological clock's kind of ticking? He wants children? He probably is at that point in his life where he wouldn't mind having some kids around, and it would be so hot to see little kids climbing all over him. I bet he's good with them, considering he's not afraid to make fun of himself or appear just plain idiotic at times.
Originally posted by katelovespirate*sigh8 that thought made me day right there. Thank you kate!! and this forum WONT DIE!!! well, at least me and Pirate Diva wont leave, right? were past obsessed to leave this place. as long as you all stay!!
are you serious?i dont want this forum to die.
we have to have hope, at least that the film will be good and we'll always be able to watch Jack and Elizabeth making out in the hottest scene ever. 🙂