Guys vs. Gals

Started by Rutog984 pages

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
As I said many a-time in the Storm vs Ironman thread, she'll probably just get shot in the face. He can shoot at least 3 beams out of him at a time and has computer aided aiming. How hard can it be to get 1 shot. To the face.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I might of said that in the Doom vs Storm thread. But really, I wouldn't put it past myself to of said it in any thread where one person shoots things and the second person owns at least one face.

I strongly disagree here. First off, Storm attacks faster than IM. All she has to do is will it. IM has to work those gadgets. Secondly, you don't just hit Storm. She is a moving target. I remember in X-Men issue 60 where Cyclops, possessed by Candra, fired his optic blasts in machine gun fashion and she dodged every last blast, blinded him with her lightning and then shot a flood from her eyes and nearly drowned him. IM's only hope against Storm would be to try and hit her at the very start of the fight. The likelyhood of that is very slim. She can steal away from him vision and all means to detect her and the other members of her team. You are also forgetting that Sersi has force-fields and can easily give each of her team their own personal force-field. Storm can use her powers through force-fields as she has done this with Magneto's, Jean's and Invisible Woman's.

IM and Hulk are no threat in this fight with Ororo there.

Grimm2 is correct. Thor is the only threat on the men's team. 😉 Storm and Hulk can be knocked out of the fight from the get go and Thor won't last half a second against Storm, Sersi and Scarlett Witch. And yes, Wanda's powers can hurt Thor. She controls probability. Thor is affected by that as well.

Couldn't Hulk thunder clap and take out (or at least distract) Storm?

Originally posted by Rutog98
I strongly disagree here. First off, Storm attacks faster than IM. All she has to do is will it. IM has to work those gadgets. Secondly, you don't just hit Storm. She is a moving target. I remember in X-Men issue 60 where Cyclops, possessed by Candra, fired his optic blasts in machine gun fashion and she dodged every last blast, blinded him with her lightning and then shot a flood from her eyes and nearly drowned him. IM's only hope against Storm would be to try and hit her at the very start of the fight. The likelyhood of that is very slim. She can steal away from him vision and all means to detect her and the other members of her team. You are also forgetting that Sersi has force-fields and can easily give each of her team their own personal force-field. Storm can use her powers through force-fields as she has done this with Magneto's, Jean's and Invisible Woman's.

IM and Hulk are no threat in this fight with Ororo there.

Grimm2 is correct. Thor is the only threat on the men's team. 😉 Storm and Hulk can be knocked out of the fight from the get go and Thor won't last half a second against Storm, Sersi and Scarlett Witch. And yes, Wanda's powers can hurt Thor. She controls probability. Thor is affected by that as well.

"Work those gadgets" ???

🤨 Do you know a thing about Iron Man? Not only does his suit function at the speed of thought, his reaction times have been vastly enhanced post extremis virus. He can definitely shoot storm in the face before she can react.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Couldn't Hulk thunder clap and take out (or at least distract) Storm?

He's already tried that. It had no affect on Ororo. Her winds can deal with it.

Originally posted by Soljer
"Work those gadgets" ???

🤨 Do you know a thing about Iron Man? Not only does his suit function at the speed of thought, his reaction times have been vastly enhanced post extremis virus. He can definitely shoot storm in the face before she can react.

Here is the problem: Storm can assault the entire team at the same time. Sersi can do this as well. What's stopping Sersi from turning the guys into poodles?
No he can't. His thoughts are still human thoughts. They are no faster than any other person's thoughts. Those weapons still have to charge up to fire, etc. That's what I meant by my comment. Storm can control the environment right there around him and get to him faster than he can to her. Plus, she can dodge his blasts. I'm sure other characters have dodged him as well. Storm dodges energy blasts in the danger room all the time and that is Shi'ar technology. Shi'ar is far beyond IM in technology.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Here is the problem: Storm can assault the entire team at the same time. Sersi can do this as well. What's stopping Sersi from turning the guys into poodles?
No he can't. His thoughts are still human thoughts. They are no faster than any other person's thoughts. Those weapons still have to charge up to fire, etc. That's what I meant by my comment. Storm can control the environment right there around him and get to him faster than he can to her. Plus, she can dodge his blasts. I'm sure other characters have dodged him as well. Storm dodges energy blasts in the danger room all the time and that is Shi'ar technology. Shi'ar is far beyond IM in technology.

His thoughts are NOT human thoughts. Tony thinks at super-human speeds, as his reaction time was vastly increased. She gets shot in the face.

Repeatedly.

His thoughts are still human thoughts. They are no faster than any other person's thoughts.

Wrong. you know nothing about Ironman.

I strongly disagree here. First off, Storm attacks faster than IM.

ROFL who has the scan of Tony's reaction time being something in the range of .000000-- seconds?

He's already tried that. It had no affect on Ororo. Her winds can deal with it.

Proof?

She could blow Hulk out of the fight from the very start and at the same time, the winds attack Thor and Iron Man.

Oh...really? A mutant's wind is going to be effective aganst the GOD of thunder?

Storm dodges energy blasts in the danger room all the time and that is Shi'ar technology. Shi'ar is far beyond IM in technology.

Grats, that is going in the 'Stupidest posts of the versus forum'

The thing about your scenario Rutog98 is that you dont even mention what the guy team is doing. This is a two sided fight, not the Girls fighting and the Guys standing there. You need to consider both sides.

Sersi alone wins this fight.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Couldn't Hulk thunder clap and take out (or at least distract) Storm?

Probobly 😬

Storm, Hulk and Iron Man are non-factors here anyway

How is Iron Man a non factor?

couldn't sersi just turn IM's armor into water, taking him out, storm can just put hulk in a tornado, which has worked against him and he was helpless until he grabbed onto a piece of debri, and here there won't be any here. wanda has held her own for a short while against thor, and it won't be long for sersi to help wanda take thor out. storm can just keep hulk in a tornado until the others take out thor, and gang up on hulk.

hulk kills storm and rips sw in half and punches Sersi's head off. Hulk wins

If Wanda is on pre-Disassembled levels, she's a non-factor. Iron Man and any Hulk short of completely mindless one are useless (and perhaps even this version). The fight is really Thor vs Sersi. I give it to him 6/10.

And Storm? Please 🙄 There are a dozen X-men who can beat her by themselves.

hulk kills storm and rips sw in half and then Sersi throws him in a blackhole

fixed.

And is it just a coincidence that every junior member is a complete idiot?

How is Iron Man a non factor?

Because Thor, SW, and Sersi are all mystical beings.

Just trying to put some fun in its thats all. I know sersi is badass but storm is extremly overated. hulk could splatter her with his pinkie.

Originally posted by What If...
And is it just a coincidence that every junior member is a complete idiot?
Generally no. It's usually safe to assume that when someone has junior member under their name, they'll know nothing and be a complete retard and/or fanboy.

Originally posted by Omega-level

And Storm? Please 🙄 There are a dozen X-men who can beat her by themselves.

do you honestly know anything about storm? she's already held her own against hulk, and it's debatable if she defeated him by herself.

Originally posted by stormfront13
do you honestly know anything about storm? she's already held her own against hulk, and it's debatable if she defeated him by herself.
Who cares if she can fight Hulk? Streetlevellers can fight Hulk. He's not very smart and not very versatile. Am I supposed to be impressed? She's still nothing in this fight. And there are a dozen or so X-Men who can beat her by themselves.

Yeah I maybe a Hulk fan but i do know the powerset of each. Hulk is usually portrayed as marvels strongest hero, i just find it hard to believe someone with normal human durabilty and can control wheather can even slow him down. Storm is a non-factor in this fight.