San Antonio Spurs

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Originally posted by Lord Evolution
No actually Kwame has a bigger body than both of them and Duncan averages more against the Heat than he does against the Lakers.

Evo, even if Duncan does average a few more points, that does not translate into more wins. The Heat have Shaq as one of the biggest threats, and teams almost always double him, leaving sharp shooters like Posey and Williams from the outside. Otherwise, Shaq gets an easy deuce. And then, we also have Wade and you should know what he can do. The Lakers don't have that firepower. They can't dominate on the offensive end without Kobe shooting the lights out. They have Lamar, but if Kobe lays an egg in the game, that's it, it's over. That's what we mean about depth. Most of the Heat bench players would start in other teams. Their depth carried them to the championship last year. Dallas is another example of a deep team. Having guys like Sasha, Bynum, and Walton does not count as being deep, because compared to Walker, Payton, and Mourning, they lack in not only the stats, but also the experience. 3 young guys vs. 3 experienced and high IQ players. That's the difference in depth.

Haslem and Mourning (minute per minute) average more blocks and rebounds than Kwame, and they are quicker. Therefore, they better suit defending Duncan.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
Guarding Duncan is guarding Duncan, if you can do it in the regular season then I don't see why it would change in the playoffs. Kwame is probably one of the best Duncan defenders in the league. He uses his body it's not like come playoff time he will lose 100 pounds and no longer be able to guard him as good as he does.

Because in the playoffs, star players step it up. Last year, the Nets shut down Wade a couple times in the regular season. Not the case in the playoffs.

Originally posted by wuTa
I heard someone say the Heat are deeper than the Spurs, I disagree, I think the Spurs and Mavs are the two deepest teams in the league. The Heat aren't playing there best right now, but its only the beginning of the season and they have been hampered by injuries, you cant tell which team is better than which at this point, espicially when were not even halfway through the season. But whens he's on, like he will be come playoff time nobody can guard Duncan, not Haslim or Mouring, and definetly not Kwame.

No, we're saying that the Heat are deeper than the Lakers, not the Spurs.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
Guarding Duncan is guarding Duncan, if you can do it in the regular season then I don't see why it would change in the playoffs. Kwame is probably one of the best Duncan defenders in the league. He uses his body it's not like come playoff time he will lose 100 pounds and no longer be able to guard him as good as he does.

Sure he is, Shaq in his prime couldn't stop Duncan in the playoffs, and your telling me Kwame can? Yea, regular season, and playoffs, not quite the same, Detroit dominated every time last year in the regular season, playoff time, not quite the same.

Originally posted by RecSpecs110
Evo, even if Duncan does average a few more points, that does not translate into more wins. The Heat have Shaq as one of the biggest threats, and teams almost always double him, leaving sharp shooters like Posey and Williams from the outside. Otherwise, Shaq gets an easy deuce. And then, we also have Wade and you should know what he can do. The Lakers don't have that firepower. They can't dominate on the offensive end without Kobe shooting the lights out. They have Lamar, but if Kobe lays an egg in the game, that's it, it's over. That's what we mean about depth. Most of the Heat bench players would start in other teams. Their depth carried them to the championship last year. Dallas is another example of a deep team. Having guys like Sasha, Bynum, and Walton does not count as being deep, because compared to Walker, Payton, and Mourning, they lack in not only the stats, but also the experience. 3 young guys vs. 3 experienced and high IQ players. That's the difference in depth.

Haslem and Mourning (minute per minute) average more blocks and rebounds than Kwame, and they are quicker. Therefore, they better suit defending Duncan.

Spurs have team speed which is something the Heat are lacking and the Lakers are not. = +1 Lakers. Just wanted to say that again.

Anyways you say that Haslem and Zo combined average more blocks and rebounds than Kwame, well that isn't against Duncan who we are talking about. I already know Kwame is a suck ass player, but if you compare Duncan's stats to when he plays the Lakers to when he plays the Heat you will see that he averages less in everything when he plays the Lakers. That is attributed to the fact that we have Kwame Browns body against Duncans body. And Shaq gets in foul trouble when he guards Duncan, which directly takes away the Heat's game plan when he is in foul trouble. If Kwame gets in foul trouble against Duncan, which he hardly does then we sit his ass down without having our entire game plan go to waste.

And you should know that we are 3-0 without Kobe this year, including a win against the Suns, so I seriously doubt we need him to shoot lights out on the offensive end to dominate a team.

Kobe and Lamar are not the only two players on this team. I will once again say that we have one of the best benches in the league and Luke Walton is a candidate for the most improved player of the year in the early going.

From your post about needing Kobe to shoot lights out and having no depth leads me to believe that you don't watch Laker games and you don't see all the other players contributing and the triangle looking really good, and Walker, Payton, and Mourning = old asses, once again the Spurs have team speed, these old players will not be able to keep up with them.

And it also looks like your not giving any respect to a team that is tops in the West, but you are saying a team that is 9-13 are headed to the championship.......

If they were so deep then how come they have a poor record without Shaq whereas we are 3-0 without Kobe. Where has that depth been all year long?

Originally posted by RecSpecs110
No, we're saying that the Heat are deeper than the Lakers, not the Spurs.

I think the Heat and Lakers are the same, but the Heat's bench is full of veterans, while the Lakers have a ton of potential, the Lakers bench have yet to prove themselves in a playoff atmosphere.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
And it also looks like your not giving any respect to a team that is tops in the West, but you are saying a team that is 9-13 are headed to the championship.......

If they were so deep then how come they have a poor record without Shaq whereas we are 3-0 without Kobe. Where has that depth been all year long?

Well that's not true, I already mentioned that I thought the Lakers were a talented team. I think they have great potential. Saying that I give them no respect is kind of harsh. Also, I didn't say the Heat are headed to the championship. I said that at a given moment in a pressure situation (like the playoffs), I think the Heat have a better chance than the Lakers at beating the Spurs, because they are overall a more powerful team. That's all.

The Lakers are 3-0 without Kobe, because so far during the season, they have been a spirited team with tons of confidence and momentum. You can see the effort when they play. The Heat on the other hand are lackadaisical, disorganized, and relaxed. Even with Shaq, they probably would have lost most of those games. See, the # of wins doesn't exactly reflect on the strength and makeup of a team. Once again, even though the Jazz have a better record than the Spurs so far, I still think the Spurs are a stronger team.

I love the Lakers, but the Spurs are deeper built.

Originally posted by TaZ#12
I love the Lakers, but the Spurs are deeper built.

We were talking about the Heat...

And yes the Spurs do go deeper than the Lakers but the heat don't.

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Originally posted by aldisyoyo
馃拑 THE SPURS ARE GONNA WIN AGAIN THIS YEAR AND NO ONE WILL STOP THEM anyone else think so? 馃えgun_bandana
馃槝 Suns will win this year.

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Originally posted by Darth Martin
馃槝 Suns will win this year.

Not the Lakers?

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Originally posted by RecSpecs110
Not the Lakers?
I wish they would but the Suns are really on a roll this year. But there's still hope for the lakers. I live in Ga and I jut bought tikets for the Lakers at Hawks on February 5. I can't wait!

Hawks are a pretty big suprise this year. And how do you think that AI did in his debut? 22 pts and 10 ast. Pretty good, but he could have done better, it was the KINGS!

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Originally posted by Darth Martin
I wish they would but the Suns are really on a roll this year. But there's still hope for the lakers. I live in Ga and I jut bought tikets for the Lakers at Hawks on February 5. I can't wait!

Suns have beat on nobody teams on their streak while this season they have lost to the cream of the crop....Spurs, Lakers(w/o Kobe), Mavericks and the Jazz twice. They haven't really beaten anybody....

True.

Originally posted by TaZ#12
Hawks are a pretty big suprise this year. And how do you think that AI did in his debut? 22 pts and 10 ast. Pretty good, but he could have done better, it was the KINGS!
Haven't checked it out yet. But's that' not a bad start for being on another team. Give him time, he'll produce........he always does.

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Originally posted by Darth Martin
I wish they would but the Suns are really on a roll this year. But there's still hope for the lakers. I live in Ga and I jut bought tikets for the Lakers at Hawks on February 5. I can't wait!

I was only joking around. It was more of a test to see how enthused you were about the Lakers. Anyway, do you have nice seats? I recently went to a Nets game (in which they were embarassed by the Mavs), and I literally got front row seats. It was awesome. Everyone looks so tall up close. I've visited Atlanta about a year ago, and I saw an outside view of Phillips Arena, but I couldn't get in.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Haven't checked it out yet. But's that' not a bad start for being on another team. Give him time, he'll produce........he always does.

Yeah, but I think it could take about 5 games or so.

They're not floor seats but they aren't nosebleeds either. They're decent in the middle I suppose. $300 for 5 tickets plus parking.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
They're not floor seats but they aren't nosebleeds either. They're decent in the middle I suppose. $300 for 5 tickets plus parking.

Whoa, 5 tickets? I guess the whole family's going. $60 per ticket in Phillips Arena...that means that you have pretty good seats. Either the front of the upper level, or the back of the lower level.