Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
My point is that you can't really have a decent scope in album of the year discussions if you've only bought two or three albums.-AC
How many of this years albums have you bought and how many were there? Did you not also only buy those of people you consider worthy in the first place? At least I don't have money to waste. I mean..did you buy Evanescence's Album? Or I think some other people I am sure won't put out an Album of the Year for me made Albums as well. Since it is subjective everyone that at least listened to one Album this year can participate. Don't you think? The scope is maybe smaller, but not everyone likes recent music as much as you do, you know?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Since it is subjective everyone that at least listened to one Album this year can participate. Don't you think? The scope is maybe smaller, but not everyone likes recent music as much as you do, you know?
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Buying more than 10 albums in a year is a waste of money, ey. Music is expensive and I can better use that money elsewhere. I've bought maybe 4 CD's this year, only two of which came out this year.
Originally posted by Lana
I'd have to actually go and look at my CD collection to see exactly what I've bought this year. I know I did get at least five that came out this year, and then Incubus is out next week.
Which ones did you get this year (of this year) and how would you rate them? If you still recall. That's kind of a general question anyways, no need to open a new thread I guess.
Originally posted by Bardock42
not everyone likes recent music as much as you do, you know?
Then their concerns with the Album of the Year 2006 thread should be zero, shouldn't it? That's what it's for. If the thread is simple for "What was your favourite album this year?", with no specific criteria on when it was released, then fine, but that's generally not the case.
My post wasn't saying you can't be involved, just that I don't think there's much point if you've bought two albums and have the variation of a deaf child. I don't care if your album of the year is Kevin Federline, I just suggested that you have bought or heard more than a two or three albums in order to make such a broad claim. If you're bitter because you can't buy albums, that's not my problem.
I didn't buy Evanescence's album because A) They're shit, and B) They wouldn't be in a top 10 even if I liked them. If someone else does, cool. My point wasn't to do with taste, it was to do with relevance. You went off on another needless Bardock tangent.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Buying more than 10 albums in a year is a waste of money, ey. Music is expensive and I can better use that money elsewhere.
So, because YOU can spend your money on things that are of bigger priority, music is a waste of time? Did you not take into account those of us who's favourite passtime is buying music? Clearly not.
Buying more than 10 albums a year if you like those albums isn't a waste of money to me. Wasting money, to me, is spending it on car stuff, but to you it isn't.
Next time, both of you should chill, read my posts and stop feeling so insecure.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Then their concerns with the Album of the Year 2006 thread should be zero, shouldn't it? That's what it's for. If the thread is simple for "What was your favourite album this year?", with no specific criteria on when it was released, then fine, but that's generally not the case.My post wasn't saying you can't be involved, just that I don't think there's much point if you've bought two albums and have the variation of a deaf child. I don't care if your album of the year is Kevin Federline, I just suggested that you have bought or heard more than a two or three albums in order to make such a broad claim. If you're bitter because you can't buy albums, that's not my problem.
I didn't buy Evanescence's album because A) They're shit, and B) They wouldn't be in a top 10 even if I liked them. If someone else does, cool. My point wasn't to do with taste, it was to do with relevance. You went off on another needless Bardock tangent.
So, because YOU can spend your money on things that are of bigger priority, music is a waste of time? Did you not take into account those of us who's favourite passtime is buying music? Clearly not.
Buying more than 10 albums a year if you like those albums isn't a waste of money to me. Wasting money, to me, is spending it on car stuff, but to you it isn't.
Next time, both of you should chill, read my posts and stop feeling so insecure.
-AC
Why? They can like some. It's not a 0% or 100% thing, is it?
The thread is "What is your favourite Album released this year". You don't have to be heavily into new music to have some favourites. People that generally like 80s music might still enjoy Morrissey's stuff. So that might be their favourite that year. If you like 1 or a 100 Albums this year doesn't matter. No one likes or even knows all the Albums released this year anyways.
But your statement is idiotic. What does the amount of Albums you bought of this year have to do with what is your favourite Album?
See, you are assuming a lot of things. Some maybe just bought Thom Yorke's this year, because they thought RHCP, tool, Bob Dylan are shit and they wouldn't be in their (a is ridiculous, lots of stupid people like Evanescence) Top Ten even if they liked them. No, I did not in this case. Your point was irrelevant. Everyone that heard an Album this year can have a favourite and is therefore relevant for this thread.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So, because YOU can spend your money on things that are of bigger priority, music is a waste of time? Did you not take into account those of us who's favourite passtime is buying music? Clearly not.
Yes I did take it into account, otherwise I wouldn't have posted. There's a difference between needing and wanting, and like it or not, its a wate of money.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Buying more than 10 albums a year if you like those albums isn't a waste of money to me. Wasting money, to me, is spending it on car stuff, but to you it isn't.Next time, both of you should chill, read my posts and stop feeling so insecure.
-AC
Define "car stuff", ese. By that do you mean vital components or cosmetic features? "Car stuff" is something ignorant laymen who don't know anything about cars say.
That comparison is flawed, because if my car's alternator or carburator is broken then I need (keyword:need) to buy a new one for the vehicle to operate properly and efficiently. Because both of those are vital vehicle components, just like your heart and stomach are vital organs. (Not too sure if you knew that) There's a big difference between buying something that you need in order to get from A to B, and buying an overpriced piece of plastic when you really only like maybe 4 songs on it.
The only reason that buying "car stuff" ( 😂 ) would be a waste of money for YOU is because you don't own a set of wheels, ese.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Define "car stuff", ese. By that do you mean vital components or cosmetic features? "Car stuff" is something ignorant laymen who don't know anything about cars say
He probably meant just that. All car stuff. I assume he doesn't have a car. And he probably doesn't care for cars. So all of that would be fancy bullshit to him.
And even if you would take out the parts of vital importance for a car. You do enjoy to buy or get or install stuff that improve your car beyond necessity, don't you? that's the same. Everyone has hobbies. I like buying music as well. I don't like buying Radios, or a set of wheels or whatever fancy stuff a car doesn't need to bring me from a to b, for a car.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Why? They can like some. It's not a 0% or 100% thing, is it?
Oh...this thing that you do, you're doing.
Is this where we hold an impasse and you say: "I meant this..." and I say "Yes, that's what I'm saying."? Because I've done that enough with you.
Originally posted by Bardock42
The thread is "What is your favourite Album released this year". You don't have to be heavily into new music to have some favourites. People that generally like 80s music might still enjoy Morrissey's stuff. So that might be their favourite that year. If you like 1 or a 100 Albums this year doesn't matter. No one likes or even knows all the Albums released this year anyways.
Then if it's not released this year, it has no place in the Album of the Year 2006 thread does it? Use a bit of sense.
Originally posted by Bardock42
But your statement is idiotic. What does the amount of Albums you bought of this year have to do with what is your favourite Album?
Absolutely nothing, in the grand scheme of things. I merely suggested that it would be better to have a scope of reference rather than one album, and you obviously took massive exception to that like a complete idiot.
If you own one 2006 album and it's your album of the year, fine. I just think it would be better to have a wider reference, but that's just a suggestion, as it always was. I'm not sure why you're getting upset.
Originally posted by Bardock42
See, you are assuming a lot of things. Some maybe just bought Thom Yorke's this year, because they thought RHCP, tool, Bob Dylan are shit and they wouldn't be in their (a is ridiculous, lots of stupid people like Evanescence) Top Ten even if they liked them. No, I did not in this case. Your point was irrelevant. Everyone that heard an Album this year can have a favourite and is therefore relevant for this thread.
What are you saying? You're saying that only having heard one 2006 album doesn't mean it's irrelevant? No, technically it doesn't. My only point was that I PERSONALLY believe that you should have a scope of reference before deciding on an album of the year.
If you don't feel this is an approach you wish to take, then don't agree with me and adhere to my suggestion. Why you're acting like I put a gun to anybody's head is anybody's guess. Then again I should know better than to take you seriously, since this is probably one of those "I feel like debating with AC." Bardock moments we always have.
You're not making a relevant point, I was.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Yes I did take it into account, otherwise I wouldn't have posted. There's a difference between needing and wanting, and like it or not, its a wate of money.
If your car has wheels, doors and working technical parts, you don't NEED anything else. So buying comfortable seats is nothing more than a want.
You want to spend money on car stuff, that's your choice. You can't factually say that buying 10 CDs a year or more is a waste of money, it's pure opinion.
I get my CDs at an average of £9, sometimes less. That works out at £90 a year if I buy 10 CDs. You're telling me that people spending hundreds and hundreds on car parts isn't wasting money? Unless their car is broke, it's nothing but want, not need. That's my opinion, as yours is that buying more than a certain amount of CDs is a waste of money. To me it isn't, to you it is. I like music more than you do, apparantly.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Define "car stuff", ese. By that do you mean vital components or cosmetic features? "Car stuff" is something ignorant laymen who don't know anything about cars say.
...and when did I claim to know anything about cars? Oh, cos I'm a guy, I'm supposed to know about cars in your eyes, right? Well I don't. Cosmetics are just that, cosmetic. It's a want, not a need.
I don't NEED music, I could technically live my life without it, but it's a want that is borderline to a need. Just like car parts are to you. It's not a waste of money to me because it's a big part of my life, music. So much so that I don't delve to the scummy level of ripping album after album off the net, I pay for my music.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That comparison is flawed, because if my car's alternator or carburator is broken then I need (keyword:need) to buy a new one for the vehicle to operate properly and efficiently. Because both of those are vital vehicle components, just like your heart and stomach are vital organs. (Not too sure if you knew that) There's a big difference between buying something that you need in order to get from A to B, and buying an overpriced piece of plastic when you really only like maybe 4 songs on it.
A) I said all that before, way ahead of you.
B) I've honed my taste enough to the point that I don't buy shit I won't like. I've never bought a CD that I didn't like at one point, so it's never been a waste of money to me. To me £9 isn't enough to lose sleep over.
I pay for my music for many reasons beyond the passive music fan's comprehension. Referring to a CD as an overpriced piece of plastic is something ignorant laymen say when they know nothing about the love of music. How the tables turn.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The only reason that buying "car stuff" ( ) would be a waste of money for YOU is because you don't own a set of wheels, ese.
I don't own a set of wheels because I don't like wasting money, and that's the funny part about this whole debate.
I can get wherever I need to go in London or outside of London for about £3 a day, less if you get a yearly card. Why would I spend a couple of thousand on JUST a bog standard car, not including everything you need to make it legit, when I couldn't drive through London without bbeing stuck in traffic and get slapped with congestion charges?
Why? Because I don't think; "I'm a guy, I need to buy and be into- cars.".
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Oh...this thing that you do, you're doing.Is this where we hold an impasse and you say: "I meant this..." and I say "Yes, that's what I'm saying."? Because I've done that enough with you.
Doubt it, except if you change what you mean. Which you might due, since it is ridiculous and I doubt you actually think it.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Then if it's not released this year, it has no place in the Album of the Year 2006 thread does it? Use a bit of sense.
Read what I said "The thread is "What is your favourite Album released this year". You don't have to be heavily into new music to have some favourites. People that generally like 80s music might still enjoy Morrissey's stuff. So that might be their favourite that year. If you like 1 or a 100 Albums this year doesn't matter. No one likes or even knows all the Albums released this year anyways."
It is about Albums that are released this year. That's what I am saying. If someone just likes one album that was released this year (I used Morrissey's as example) then that is their favourite and belongs in this thread.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Absolutely nothing, in the grand scheme of things. I merely suggested that it would be better to have a scope of reference rather than one album, and you obviously took massive exception to that like a complete idiot.If you own one 2006 album and it's your album of the year, fine. I just think it would be better to have a wider reference, but that's just a suggestion, as it always was. I'm not sure why you're getting upset..
Yes, you suggested that and I said it is of no matter. I am not upset. And I assume you are neither.
I just told you that I don't think the scope matters. If you bought 1 or 50 Albums of this year. There are still 1000 you haven't heard. And I assume everyone chose wisely which albums to get. Just like you decided not to get Albums you wouldn't like. That you liked more this year than others doesn't matter. This is not an attack on you. Just a statement that I don't think the scope matters.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What are you saying? You're saying that only having heard one 2006 album doesn't mean it's irrelevant? No, technically it doesn't. My only point was that I PERSONALLY believe that you should have a scope of reference before deciding on an album of the year.
Fair enough. And I don't. So what's the problem? I just told you why I don't think so.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If you don't feel this is an approach you wish to take, then don't agree with me and adhere to my suggestion. Why you're acting like I put a gun to anybody's head is anybody's guess. Then again I should know better than to take you seriously, since this is probably one of those "I feel like debating with AC." Bardock moments we always have.You're not making a relevant point, I was.
I am not.
You said you think one "can't have a decent scope in album of the year discussions if you've only bought two or three albums."
Mine was they can. That's why we are arguing.
If your point was relevant to begin with then my point that disagreed with yours was relevant aswell, don't you think?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Read what I said "The thread is "What is your favourite Album released this year". You don't have to be heavily into new music to have some favourites. People that generally like 80s music might still enjoy Morrissey's stuff. So that might be their favourite that year. If you like 1 or a 100 Albums this year doesn't matter. No one likes or even knows all the Albums released this year anyways."
And how is that relevant to anything I said? I was never referring to taste. I was referring to relevance. Released this year generally means THIS year. There's no point saying "My favourite album released this year was Purple Rain.".
Originally posted by Bardock42
It is about Albums that are released this year. That's what I am saying. If someone just likes one album that was released this year (I used Morrissey's as example) then that is their favourite and belongs in this thread.
Which is what I just said before. Why do you always do this?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, you suggested that and I said it is of no matter. I am not upset. And I assume you are neither.
So if you are saying something I agree with, why continue? Oh, because you're being you.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I just told you that I don't think the scope matters. If you bought 1 or 50 Albums of this year. There are still 1000 you haven't heard. And I assume everyone chose wisely which albums to get. Just like you decided not to get Albums you wouldn't like. That you liked more this year than others doesn't matter. This is not an attack on you. Just a statement that I don't think the scope matters.
You don't think scope matters, I think it's better to have one. Wherein are you finding difficulty?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Fair enough. And I don't. So what's the problem? I just told you why I don't think so.
No problem here. You, once again, decided to put forth your unknowingly agreeing argument and not take the time to realise that we more or less agree on all of it, except scope and variation, which I said myself was a personal suggestion, not a fact.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I am not.You said you think one "can't have a decent scope in album of the year discussions if you've only bought two or three albums."
Mine was they can. That's why we are arguing.
We don't need to argue. You think they can, I don't think they can. It doesn't matter why we think that, they're personal choices.
Originally posted by Bardock42
If your point was relevant to begin with then my point that disagreed with yours was relevant aswell, don't you think?
As I've proven once more, you weren't disagreeing a whole lot, just being attention starved.
-AC