Why doesn't Ironman make armor from Adamantium?

Started by S-Ranger5 pages
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
By the way, Hulk has shattered Adamantium on more than one occasion 😉

Wasn't that retconned into weaker and duplicate grades of Adamantium. Although he may have broke through the real stuff on one occasion i think heck the dude break's through everything.

Re: Why doesn't Ironman make armor from Adamantium?

Originally posted by masterbruce
is Tony that dumb?

Aint the stuff posionous anyway if he was in a suit of it all the time surely it would affect him in someway. It may also restrict his abilitly to move?

Originally posted by S-Ranger
Wasn't that retconned into weaker and duplicate grades of Adamantium. Although he may have broke through the real stuff on one occasion i think heck the dude break's through everything.

It was never retconned on panel. He's bent adamantium and its alloys before with his bare hands. 😄

Also, Masterbruce evidently doesn't like anyone without a black cape and bat ears.

Since adamantium was not developed until after Captain America was revived from suspended animation, this would be impossible. In fact, the shield's material has radically different properties from either, resulting in far greater resilience.

The source of this confusion/error is an entry made in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (and repeated many times since), which stated that the shield was an adamantium-vibranium alloy. However, as revealed via retcon in Kurt Busiek's 2001 Avengers Annual , adamantium was created in an attempt to duplicate the material of the shield.

I don't wheter to take that a face value seeing it's from wikipedia.

Well, he's had more than one shield, I believe. I know he's carried several in the run of the Avengers. I used to have a link that described all of them, but I don't now. 🙁

Adamantium is used as the key component in several characters' equipment, including:

Wolverine's skeleton
Battlestar's shield
Bullseye's spinal column and strips
Cyber's claws and skin
Moon Knight's crecent blades
one of Mister Fantastic's labs for extremely dangerous experiments
A UNIQUE POWER ARMOR FOR IRONMAN
Agent Zero's combat knife
a unique set of Doctor Octopus' arms.
Gambit's telescopic staff.
Lady Deathstrike's talons and skeleton.
Sabretooth's skeleton
a unique suit for Stilt-Man
the robotic body of TESS-One
some of Ultron's robotic bodies
some of Alkhema's robotic bodies
X-23's claws
Hammerhead's skull plate.

Again i wouldn't like to stake my claim on wikipedia but it seem's he may already have one i'll need to do my homework on Ironman's suits to back it up.

that guy mallen from the Extremis arc ripped IM 's armor apart with his bare hands...he had to break out his back up to the prototype...which i believe is the oone he currently uses today, as its the one with some of the systems grafed in the hollow of his bones

Originally posted by manjaro
that guy mallen from the Extremis arc ripped IM 's armor apart with his bare hands...he had to break out his back up to the prototype...which i believe is the oone he currently uses today, as its the one with some of the systems grafed in the hollow of his bones

Exactamente.

As far as I know not all adamantuim has the same durability. This is from Marvel.com

An artificially-created alloy of iron that is the most impervious substance known on Earth, with the exception of the unknown Adamantium-Vibranium alloy of which Captain America's shield is composed.

This implies that Cap's shield is more durable than regular adamantuim.

Yeah exacatly..anyway i think we could all agree it don't matter diddely squat what Ironman build's his suit out of there's always going to be some 'badass' mofo that rips him out of it or damages it beyond repair. Cause to be honest if that wasn't the case he'd be sporting some weirdass extremis hulkbuster thing and be like a transformer or anime mecha. It's just in his character nature and enemies story progression to bust his ass no matter how powerful his suit is otherwise he'd be boring.

Originally posted by S-Ranger
Yeah exacatly..anyway i think we could all agree it don't matter diddely squat what Ironman build's his suit out of there's always going to be some 'badass' mofo that rips him out of it or damages it beyond repair. Cause to be honest if that wasn't the case he'd be sporting some weirdass extremis hulkbuster thing and be like a transformer or anime mecha. It's just in his character nature and enemies story progression to bust his ass no matter how powerful his suit is otherwise he'd be boring.

Yeah lol.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
By the way, Hulk has shattered Adamantium on more than one occasion 😉

Secondary adamantium 😉

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait, since when is Ironmans armor stronger than adamantium?

It's not.

Originally posted by S-Ranger
Since adamantium was not developed until after Captain America was revived from suspended animation, this would be impossible. In fact, the shield's material has radically different properties from either, resulting in far greater resilience.

The source of this confusion/error is an entry made in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (and repeated many times since), which stated that the shield was an adamantium-vibranium alloy. However, as revealed via retcon in Kurt Busiek's 2001 Avengers Annual , adamantium was created in an attempt to duplicate the material of the shield.

I don't wheter to take that a face value seeing it's from wikipedia.

From the Official Handbook:

Originally posted by Scoobless
Secondary adamantium 😉

It's not.

From the Official Handbook:

If it's not stronger than adamantium, they why have some of his past armors resisted Wolverine's claws? 😐

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'd just like to take this opportunity to point out that despite what the fanboys say, there's no proof that Thor lost his arm to Wolverine. Check it out, this is the page in question...

Yes Wolverine DID slash at Thor's arm, but if you look in the bottom corner you'll see that his arm is still intact. Here's a close up...

See, it's still there. Also notice that when Wolverine slashed at him, it was just above the wrist.

Now later on when he's missing an arm, it's missing from above the elbow. Here's a pic...

The entire battle took place off panel, and there's no proof how he lost the arm, but there's no way it was from the intitial shot.

Well no, to be fair look at the climatic issues of The Ruling storyline, in the future with his son Magni. Thor is still missing that forearm. But I don't know why he couldn't use the odinforce to regenerate a new one - Odin would have been capable of that. Jurgens wanted the drama of a one-armed Thor fighting Desak in the end, I suppose.

Getting back to the question: I don't know why Tony hasn't used Adamantium. Maybe because it's too rigid, and the legacy of IM armour is magnetized chain mail - that's how he carried it in a briefcase for decades. So maybe he wants the flexibility, and would rather rely on his firepower and shield generator.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
If it's not stronger than adamantium, they why have some of his past armors resisted Wolverine's claws? 😐

Insufficient force, bad angle of attack, magnetic shielding, force fields, the fact that it's really hard regardless of the fact that it isn't adamantium, etc....

Originally posted by roughrider
Getting back to the question: I don't know why Tony hasn't used Adamantium. Maybe because it's too rigid, and the legacy of IM armour is magnetized chain mail - that's how he carried it in a briefcase for decades. So maybe he wants the flexibility, and would rather rely on his firepower and shield generator.

And it would be harder for him to work on/upgrade after coating it in adamantium

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Grimm22
But lost an arm to wolverine 😆

Yes with that one arm, no Mjolnir, and no Odin Power, Thor sill managed to leave a lifeless orange rock lying at his feet.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Yes with that one arm, no Mjolnir, and no Odin Power, Thor sill managed to leave a lifeless orange rock lying at his feet.

And the Hulk as well. 😉

s-ranger, your question/assertion on page 2 about cap's shield v. tony's armor doesn't take into account that, for that example to be logical, both would need identical masses. for example, take a piece of paper, and rip it. then take an identical piece of paper, ball it up, and try to rip that. it is sufficiently harder. the compressed density of cap's shield WOULD provide it much greater durability than tony's armor, if they were of comparable substance and mass. but they aren't. decent idea, though.

Aint the fact that because cap's shield is significantly smaller the various material's atoms etc. would be more compact making the sheild stronger as it is of smaller proportations than Ironman's armour so it would take surgeical precision strikes to dent Cap's sheild kind of like how when paper is manipulated into different shapes it can hold up a cup full of water because your making it more compact put when spread out normally it can't.

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