Originally posted by DigiMark007I was referring to She-Ra 😖hifty: 😛
Thor doing that? Or He-Man? I've never seen HM pull it off so I'm assuming you mean Thor. Yeah, it's possible I suppose....but I really don't think he'd need it.
No I was talking about Thor and Yeah I agree Thor probably wouldn't need to
Originally posted by DigiMark007
What's the issue where He-Man does this? Or better yet, a scan? I've heard it a lot, but have never actually seen it formally sited other than as a rumor.Beyond that, like I said, of course there's some good feats for He-Man. The Supes fight isn't the only one. But for every good one he has, there's 4-5 horrible ones that make it seem like, say, Iron Man could beat him. And even many of his good showings aren't even herald-caliber.
He-Man gets a lot of hype around here, but I've yet to see or hear anything beyond speculation to convince me he'd beat Thor.
I believe he does this in "Eternal Darkness."
Call me crazy, but I think a major deciding factor in this battle would be She-Ra's sword and how she uses it. Her sword is actually the most versatile and powerful weapon in the fight. Her sword can transform into other weapons; not just a sword all the time like He-Man's. Her sword can become a shield, staff, chain, lasso, helmet, parachute, flaming sword, etc....as well as a variety of other weapons. I realize Thor can do a great many of things with Mjolnir, but She-Ra's sword is just as cool and can do almost as many things as the hammer can do.
I personally see this as a very close fight. Thor can call upon all the energies of Asgard and Odin; He-Man has the Sorceress and the Elders of Greyskull in his corner.
Strength wise it's too close to call...but He-Man is probably the stronger of the two (he is afterall the most powerful man in the universe); BUT Thor has tons more battle experience and thousands of years of victories, fights, wars, etc...under his belt. Same with the females. She-Ra is definately stronger and has the better weapon, but Valkyrie definately has more experience and skill.
Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
Call me crazy, but I think a major deciding factor in this battle would be She-Ra's sword and how she uses it. Her sword is actually the most versatile and powerful weapon in the fight. Her sword can transform into other weapons; not just a sword all the time like He-Man's. Her sword can become a shield, staff, chain, lasso, helmet, parachute, flaming sword, etc....as well as a variety of other weapons. I realize Thor can do a great many of things with Mjolnir, but She-Ra's sword is just as cool and can do almost as many things as the hammer can do.
While often under-utilized, the Sword of Power has transformational abilities as well.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Based on what?
Based on my entire argument in this thread, and the fact that He-Man seems to have major durability issues and lots of poor showings, regardless of what his strength and sword may or may not be able to do. Eventually the averages mean something, even if he has a few feats here and there that are herald-esque.
I'm a big HM fan too, so I'm not trying to hate on your boy. But he's out of his league, and has been talked up way too much on this forum.
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Also, what company was He-Man with during that arc you mentioned (with the moon-chucking feat)??
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Based on my entire argument in this thread, and the fact that He-Man seems to have major durability issues and lots of poor showings, regardless of what his strength and sword may or may not be able to do. Eventually the averages mean something, even if he has a few feats here and there that are herald-esque.I'm a big HM fan too, so I'm not trying to hate on your boy. But he's out of his league, and has been talked up way too much on this forum.
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Also, what company was He-Man with during that arc you mentioned (with the moon-chucking feat)??
Your entire argument consists of "because I think so." Since you are considering the entirety of the showings of a character, then you must also consider the time Thor was defeated and had his powers and mantle usurped by ordinary reporter, Roger Norvell.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Your entire argument consists of "because I think so." Since you are considering the entirety of the showings of a character, then you must also consider the time Thor was defeated and had his powers and mantle usurped by ordinary reporter, Roger Norvell.
Thor's been defeated by cosmic beings....I'm sure there was some sort of plot device involved if someone like you or me beat him. He-Man's been punked by Tri-Clops with a sword, a few flashes of lightning, etc.
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So yes, "I think so" is valid when we have oodles of feats for Thor that put his durability, skills, strength, power, etc. at a herald level. The same can't be said for He-Man until proven otherwise....which can't be done with 1-2 feats among a bunch of mediocre ones.
...if I have to face He-Man in the herald tourney I'll be scanning a bunch of my He-Man stuff to make this exact point, so if it happens I'll be sure to show some of it in here.
Proven otherwise.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Thor's been defeated by cosmic beings....I'm sure there was some sort of plot device involved if someone like you or me beat him. He-Man's been punked by Tri-Clops with a sword, a few flashes of lightning, etc.😐
Again, Thor was defeated and had his powers and mantle usurped by an ordinary reporter.
He-Man has never been defeated by, let alone had his powers and mantle usurped by an ordinary man. In fact, he has never had his powers or mantle usurped by anyone.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
So yes, "I think so" is valid when we have oodles of feats for Thor that put his durability, skills, strength, power, etc. at a herald level. The same can't be said for He-Man until proven otherwise....which can't be done with 1-2 feats among a bunch of mediocre ones....if I have to face He-Man in the herald tourney I'll be scanning a bunch of my He-Man stuff to make this exact point, so if it happens I'll be sure to show some of it in here.
In "Taking of Grayskull," He-Man not only lifted Castle Grayskull, but hurled it with sufficient force to exceed the gravitational pull of a white hole.
In "Trouble In Arcadia," He-Man lifted an entire city.
In "Stone City," He-Man moved an entire mountain range.
In "Eternal Darkness," He-Man hurled a planet into orbit.
In "She-Demon of Phantos," He-Man broke chains fashioned out of an indestructable mineral.