I have been thinking about jumping on the final fastasy band wagon

Originally posted by JToTheP
Well, I never really enjoyed Squall, considering a gunblade is just ridiculous. Now Irvine's rifles were a joy to use, and Zell's limit break.

Well 9, you don't even need to surpass level 50 to beat it, you just have to hope for the best, as in LEAST status effects from attacks like Mustard Bomb.

I don't like any of the mini-games in any of the final fantasy games I played.

I don't see how 7 is any different with the tedious summons, and limit break upon limit break.

The Limit Break trick with Circle I think in 8 is Squaresoft's own fault.

And I will never understand the praise VII got, graphics don't make a good game, not with characters like VII.

Oddly enough though, I love the movie, maybe because it starts with the Secret Ending with Red XIII considering Red is the shit forever.

Just curious, did you beat VII?

It has some of the most well developed characters and some extremely well done character interaction. The Summons in 7 weren't nearly as bad because you didn't need to use them all the time, they weren't the main thing in the game like they were in VIII.

The praise VII got has nothing to do with the graphics. For it's time there was nothing like it, it pushed the envelope as far as story telling and character development goes, just like VI before it. To truly appreciate the game I think you really had to play it when it was new, again, just like VI. It was an amazing experience for it's time, and it still holds up rather well, though it's flaws are much more apparant now, seeing as the series and other games have fixed and perfected many aspects of the game.

A cool thing about VIII, though. A few of the character names in the game were taken from some cities directly around me. Irvine is the name of a City just a few minutes away from me, same with Laguna.

Originally posted by BackFire
Just curious, did you beat VII?

It has some of the most well developed characters and some extremely well done character interaction. The Summons in 7 weren't nearly as bad because you didn't need to use them all the time, they weren't the main thing in the game like they were in VIII.

The praise VII got has nothing to do with the graphics. For it's time there was nothing like it, it pushed the envelope as far as story telling and character development goes, just like VI before it. To truly appreciate the game I think you really had to play it when it was new, again, just like VI. It was an amazing experience for it's time, and it still holds up rather well, though it's flaws are much more apparant now, seeing as the series and other games have fixed and perfected many aspects of the game.

A cool thing about VIII, though. A few of the character names in the game were taken from some cities directly around me. Irvine is the name of a City just a few minutes away from me, same with Laguna.

Yes, I had to use Knights of the round on Sephiroth in all 3 rounds, but I did beat it I think in 98' when I got it.

My main problem is why they MADE the changes they did to the series, and broke the traditional RPG phase it had going with 1-6.

That is pretty cool, I'm sure people living in those towns raved about it for a while.

FF8 also you had your other two party members follow you, which was fun to run in circles and jagged lines. 😛

Well, it was a next generation game, and FF games have slowly been evolving and changing ever since the beginning. The series would be boring if it's story telling and character types had not changed at all since the early games.

Originally posted by BackFire
Just curious, did you beat VII?

It has some of the most well developed characters and some extremely well done character interaction. The Summons in 7 weren't nearly as bad because you didn't need to use them all the time, they weren't the main thing in the game like they were in VIII.

The praise VII got has nothing to do with the graphics. For it's time there was nothing like it, it pushed the envelope as far as story telling and character development goes, just like VI before it. To truly appreciate the game I think you really had to play it when it was new, again, just like VI. It was an amazing experience for it's time, and it still holds up rather well, though it's flaws are much more apparant now, seeing as the series and other games have fixed and perfected many aspects of the game.

A cool thing about VIII, though. A few of the character names in the game were taken from some cities directly around me. Irvine is the name of a City just a few minutes away from me, same with Laguna.

VII's characters were NOT good. Cloud acted as a spoiled child throughout VII and near the end he started to act a little better but in Advent Children...he's a pussy who dwells on the past. Yuffie and Cait Sith are beyond useless. No one likes them. Cait Sith is to Final Fantasy as Jar Jar is to Star Wars.

Barret is an angry black guy that's good with a gun. Cid is an angry white guy that's good with a spear. Aerith was useless. Vincent and Red XIII were the best characters if anything. I played it when it was new and even beat the game (defeated all the WEAPONS too). I will be the first to say Sephiroth is the coolest villain but that's about it.

Vincent, Red XIII, Sephiroth, and Tifa seem to be the only decent characters in that game. Barret and Cid cuss so much I suprised that it got a T rating. VI actually kept the story revolving around different characters. Why is it Aerith plays a bigger role after she dies (including the movie) then other characters like Barret, Red XIII, Cid, Yuffie, and Cait Sith?

Final Fantasy VII is vastly overrated. It offered nothing new to the RPG world. I found the graphics not all that impressive. The N64 seemed to have better graphics with Zelda and Mario alone. Heck at least with Mario and Zelda they actually had noses.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
VII's characters were NOT good. Cloud acted as a spoiled child throughout VII and near the end he started to act a little better but in Advent Children...he's a pussy who dwells on the past. Yuffie and Cait Sith are beyond useless. No one likes them. Cait Sith is to Final Fantasy as Jar Jar is to Star Wars.

Barret is an angry black guy that's good with a gun. Cid is an angry white guy that's good with a spear. Aerith was useless. Vincent and Red XIII were the best characters if anything. I played it when it was new and even beat the game (defeated all the WEAPONS too). I will be the first to say Sephiroth is the coolest villain but that's about it.

Vincent, Red XIII, Sephiroth, and Tifa seem to be the only decent characters in that game. Barret and Cid cuss so much I suprised that it got a T rating. VI actually kept the story revolving around different characters. Why is it Aerith plays a bigger role after she dies (including the movie) then other characters like Barret, Red XIII, Cid, Yuffie, and Cait Sith?

Final Fantasy VII is vastly overrated. It offered nothing new to the RPG world. I found the graphics not all that impressive. The N64 seemed to have better graphics with Zelda and Mario alone. Heck at least with Mario and Zelda they actually had noses.

I didn't say the characters were good, don't care about that. I know some people don't like the characters, that doesn't mean shit to me. I said the development and interaction was good. Most of your simplifications of the characters are silly and not even accurate. Cloud didn't act like a spoiled child? I personally liked most of the characters just fine, myself. Sephiroth is about the most overrated character in the entire game, too. He's certainly not the best villain as everyone implies. He was good, not much more.

It offered nothing new? Are you mad? Whether you like the game or not, I don't care. But you are factually wrong when you say it offerend nothing new. It changed the way RPG's were made forever. It offered new combat mechanics in Limit Breaks, now a staple in the series. The method and type of story was unlike anything done before. The story was so ambitious and complex, again, far above anything else that had been done in video games at that time. The use of cinematics to tell the story bits as opposed to just dialogue, again, now a staple in the series was first introduced in VII. The massive amounts of sidequests and minigames that the series is now known for, while in some of the older games to a much smaller degree, was fully realized in VII, far beyond anything in the prior games. All these, and you say it offered nothing new? Absurd.

And the graphics were gorgeous. Not the character graphics, obviously, the beauty of the graphics lie in the background, which still look nice even to this day.

[QUOTE=7830942]Originally posted by JToTheP
[B]I hate 7 and 10 with a passion. Yuna and Tidus are by far completely pathetic lead characters. Auron was the best in 10 by far. I thought the sphere grid in 10 blew horribly, and you could get far too strong and not even Sin could match your stats at the ending battles.

I dont understand that, i'm not here to defend x or anything(despite the fact that it is my favorite) but to say it was pathetic is kind of extreme. I already stated what made them great characters.

And i'm not going to dispute 8 because, i really enjoyed seocnd to x. But to say nine is anywhere near great or better than 10 is ludacris.

*not here to argue just wanna kno why. 🙂

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
I been playing Sony's consols since 1999, and I own nearly 100 playstation games (PS1, PS2, PSP, soon PS3).

I have never played a final fastasy. I would like to start with VII, except that game is selling for boku money right now

Don't. Believe me, you aren't missing much.

I think even FFVI (Final Fantasy III in the US) is still going for like 80 dollars or more...

Would you guys Recommend XII to him?

X should be like 20 dollars lol

FFXII is so drastically different from the other FFs that while I'm loving it so far, I wouldn't really reccomend it as the first FF to play.

I guess I'd personally have to go with FFX. It's my favorite, it's easy to find, and it's cheap.

For me the most important part of a RPG is the story line and Final Fantasy 7 has the best. The best part of the game is 30 minuets of dialogue between Cloud and Cloud. The only few complaints I have with the game are. 1 you only get 3 party members at a time, 2 it would be cool if you could equip more things like gloves, boots, helmets, shields, and more.

Final Fantasy 8 had a lame cliché love storyline and if you junction everything into your weapon you take off 9999 before the halfway point making magic useless and the game much too easy. Best part of the game is the opening movie.

Final Fantasy X eliminated the exploration of the world. No more flying around in your air ship, no more exploring worlds. IMO they rushed Final Fantasy X it could have been a fantastic game if they would have put a exportable world in it. BLITZ BALL BLEW. Still liked the game though.

Umm, the world in FFX is explorable, just you can't really go around much until late in the game. But once you have the airship you can go and do whatever you want. Yeah, would have been better could you explore more earlier in the game, but remember it did come out early in the PS2s life and thus they were still testing what could be done with the system.

And honestly, blitzball I hated at first, but once I figured out how to play it it became my favorite minigame and I'd spend hours playing it.

Originally posted by Lana
Umm, the world in FFX is explorable, just you can't really go around much until late in the game. But once you have the airship you can go and do whatever you want. Yeah, would have been better could you explore more earlier in the game, but remember it did come out early in the PS2s life and thus they were still testing what could be done with the system.

And honestly, blitzball I hated at first, but once I figured out how to play it it became my favorite minigame and I'd spend hours playing it.

You can't fly around in your airship you can only point and click if you want to go to zanarkand you just point on the zanarkand dot and click and then you are there, I like it when old way if you wanted to go someware you have to fly there not point and click there. Every other Final fantasy you can fly your airship around and in FF7 you got to chase a weapon in your air ship and that was cool. I also didn't like the armor system or lack of armor. I did like the grid though, allows you to make your characters how ever you want them. I always make Kamari a bad ass wizard and Yuna a Theif and Riku the heavy attacker like Aaron.

I got used to Blitz ball I had to get used to it to get wakka's final weapon and I still hate hate hate hate hate it. I even like the mog game from FF7 better than blitz ball it is just not fun for me.

dont want to seem as if i am not standing firm on my x ground but i have to agree....as much as i love ffx (and i reaaaaalllllyyyy reallly do do) i didnt like blitzball that much but it was nice to look at in that opening scene.

I hated Blitzball as well.

I also hated that number game.

I could never beat the one that would allow you to get that certain outfit if you won.

Can't remember which outfit it was, but I knew I really wanted it, I think it was pretty strong.

I gave up on that number game after a few tries. It was impossible.

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

The number mini-game in FFX-2? You have to win it to get Gambler...and that game was actually very easy, I did it on my first try.

Blitzball was crappy in X-2, it was a lot of fun in FFX though.

Originally posted by Lana
The number mini-game in FFX-2? You have to win it to get Gambler...and that game was actually very easy, I did it on my first try.

Blitzball was crappy in X-2, it was a lot of fun in FFX though.

Yeah, now that I think about it. I do remember playing Blitzball more in Final Fantasy X-2 than I did in Final Fantasy X.

I can't remember though. Was it required in X-2 or optional b/c I can't imagine why I would have played it.

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

It was optional in X-2. I played it once and never touched it again.

VII and some of the original carts suffer from the same syndrome as Symphony of the Night, Rondo of Blood, and Tengen's Tetris, you look on Ebay and realize your gonna have to sell your grandpa's archtop 1950's Les Paul and copy of Action Comics #1 and still need a bank loan to afford it, but after all that trouble, you still occasionally find it for 20 bucks at game force down the street wedged in between Fester's Quest and about 700 copies of The Adventures of Bayou Billy.

Blitz ball could have been great but it wasn't and that is part of the reason I hate it so bad. They could have made the game so fun and cool but they didn't.

There is a cool trick you can do in FFx-2. You use something to hold your controller so you always walk upwards into a wall. Have a white mage and 2 other characters you want to level up. Have something hold down the attack button and your white mage will heal and the other two will attack and you can leave it there over night and wake up with 3 fully leveled up job classes. It is also a good way to reach level 99 without even touching the game. I left it doing that for a week at when I came back I was on level 60 something.

Rubber bands work wonders for this.

I'm sorry. My mother taught me not to speak to cheaters. mhm

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....