The Symbols Thread: Let's Trace our POTC Symbols

Started by Mistypirate47 pages

Sorry for posting 3 times in a row.
In flower theology (religious studies) The White Lily represents Mary's Divine Maternity, her Perpetual Virginity, and her
Immaculate Conception.

Originally posted by Chiki Mina
well remember in the first scene when Lizzie was holding the flowers from her wedding. Well there were flowers in her wedding.

Oh BTW she droppped her flowers 😄

I hope I don't get in trouble for posting 4 times in a row. But I'm just excited, I love this thread. I wont post anymore I promise.

IMO Liz dropping the white Lily's could symbolize her, letting go of her purity and Innocence.

^^ OMG ARE U KIDDING? you post as much as u want....i love hearing ur insight!!!

yeah the lily is used at a funeral, Its obviously supposed to look like a funeral..in the commentary T&T say that the opening scene was originally the scene where jack was in a coffin, then the one where she looks as if she's at a funeral. Then that ties in with the ending..

the line "A lady widowed before marriage searching for her husband lost at sea"

also the thing about them meaning fertility?? 😄

One thing i notice about movie 1 & 2 they both start and end with Jack and Liz tied together in some way.

will movie 3 be the same?

usually the opening signifies something we will see at the end...in both movies so far its been a J/E thing..also both of Lizzies openings seem very dreamlike..T&T also said this on the commentary

Both of the movie ended with J/L tied together somehow. In the first movie when jack was singing pirates life he was thinking about liz, and I noticed on how liz said "hes a pirate" I believe she was also thinking about Jack.

The second the same. Jack battled the kraken for Liz to proove that hes the hero and a good man, and liz tears were of killing Jack, not A MAN, but jack sparrow.

I actually mean that She's singing pirates life at the start..in the middle they both sing it and at the end Jack sings it

movie 2..Jacks in a coffin, Liz is mourning at a funeral basically IMO "her husband lost at sea" (line from the crew member) at the end we see it again..its mirrored

IMO they switched the opening scenes around(writers commentary) to what we see in the finnished cut because it would have "possibly" been too obvious where her heart "truly lies" right from the start..I can imagine watching it the first time..seeing Jack arrive in a coffin then seeing Liz bassically looking sad as if she's by a grave mourning the death of someone she loves..even before the movie gets going the opening being in the original order would suggest that its always been Jack who was her true soul mate, IMO anyway..it still kinda does..but there is less emphasis on it because will comes in between that scene and the introduction of Jack.

In the suppose leaked script liz is singing a song umm I forgot what was the name-i remember what was it about, but cant remember the name. You think Jack might sing that song by the end of potc 3 too? Just a stupid guess

Ok something else I've notice is when Liz is kneeling down crying look at her eyes, the eyeliner is spread around her eyes, just like Jack's. Cool.
Take a look at this vid posted by Piratediva.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tQIlViRjKk

i didnt think liz was wearing eyeliner at all.

she was wearing abit...it did look like of like Jack's but just a tad

I don't know what she was wearing but, thats what I'm referring to. She has something dark around her eyes.

maybe in the beach scene while jack was sleeping she checked his pockets and stole his eye liner lol

Maybe she though it was stylish, and decided to steal it. 🙂

moving on lol

What other smbols. Oh and Im sorry Misty but what do the lilly flowers represent?

Originally posted by Chiki Mina
moving on lol

What other smbols. Oh and Im sorry Misty but what do the lilly flowers represent?

The Lily is a symbol of Virginity, Purity, Majesty, It's Heavenly to be with You. And in Theology which is (religious studies) The White Lily represents Mary's Divine Maternity, her Perpetual Virginity, and her
Immaculate Conception.
IMO Liz dropping the white Lily's could symbolize her, letting go of her purity and Innocence

omg DUM DUM DUUUUM. Now that you mentioned that, the camera seems to focus on that part when she drops the flowers. I guess she had enough.

Yes thats what I noticed 😄

I'm going to keep searching for more clues and symbols. We haven't discuss Will, what clues and symbols could be foretelling, that he is going to stab the heart of DJ and become the next Capt of the FD?

Hey this is a dumb question. But what did Jack mean when he said tide and time something like that.

he says time and tide luv... and im not sure