PS3 will be the last console Sony ever made?

Originally posted by Lana
I'll have to disagree on that one, to a point, because you can't have the software unless you have the hardware to begin with.

This is one of the many endless debates in the world kinda like the Chicken or the egg.

The only way to avoid the endless debate is to say that “new software” is more important than “new hardware” because. New hardware requires new software but new software doesn't require new hardware. For example if the entire world stopped making new hardware, new software will continue to be made for the old hardware. But if they stopped making new software they would also stop making new hardware because nobody wants to buy a PS2 to play old PS1 game on it, and nobody wants to buy the newest best video card to run Warcraft 2

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Also, Oblivion was designed with PCs in mind, the 360 version is a port. So that kinda messes up your theory, Dirk.

Though I have to say that it's not so much the power of the hardware, but what you do with it. The PS3 is, technically, the most powerful, but the 360 has better looking games because the developers are using the 360's power in better ways. Same thing happened occasionally with the PS2.

That doesn't mess it up at all because the Xbox360 is a basically a pc it does run windows as we all know and oblivion was designed to run on windows. Also Oblivion looks better on a PC than on an xbox360 so that also helps support what I'm saying.

Originally posted by El_NINO
What your trying to say is not totally correct, basically you can only do what the hardware can allow you to do. Take a Computer for example, if a game or software requires you to have at least 1GB RAM and you only have 256, then you basically wont run that app because the software requires it to have minimum 1GB.

But if they re programmed the game good enough it could run on 256. They can optimize software to run on old hardware but they can't optimize new hardware to run old software better.

Originally posted by Lana
GC's hardware was more powerful than the PS2.

And the RE4 port to the PS2 very much shows this to be a fact.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
But if they re programmed the game good enough it could run on 256. They can optimize software to run on old hardware but they can't optimize new hardware to run old software better.

No it couldnt, the amount of code processing through the pipeline would crash your PC and the RAM serves for storing code that is constantly being used along with other critical background services running of the RAM as well. No amount of "good reprogramming" would allow the game to run on 256 which is why they give a minimum and a recommended hardware setting. Try installing windows XP on a 486 PC and you tell me if that can work. Like I said no amount of "good reprogramming" would allow that software to run on old hardware, you really are limited to what the hardware can allow you to do.

Originally posted by El_NINO
No it couldnt, the amount of code processing through the pipeline would crash your PC and the RAM serves for storing code that is constantly being used along with other critical background services running of the RAM as well. No amount of "good reprogramming" would allow the game to run on 256 which is why they give a minimum and a recommended hardware setting. Try installing windows XP on a 486 PC and you tell me if that can work. Like I said no amount of "good reprogramming" would allow that software to run on old hardware, you really are limited to what the hardware can allow you to do.

You are not understanding, and I’m not going to waste my time explaining, and it’s not even the topic of the thread.

PS3 is the new 3DO. Top of the line, expensive as hell, and intimidating to game developers.

Originally posted by ysh227
Link to rumor:
http://thebestworld.forumable.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=197&mforum=thebestworld

if that's true, that sucks.

It doesn't suck. It'll be good for the industry. People'll be glad that Sony's not shoving their proprietary crap down people's throats. 😄

I was talking some of the guys at work. (Those dudes all work in the computers department mind you).

They all think Sony is going to tank and stop making systems within the next 2 years because the Ps3 is piece of crap apparently, and nobody wants to buy it, and Blue ray was the worst idea for them to make. They are just going to be like sega, and nobody wants to develop games for it.

they should have waited 5-7 years before releasing it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3DO

Dude, when that thing came out:

A) Nobody carried it

B) Nobody even one or knew anyone who had one

C) No one would pay $700 for a video game system in 1993

D) They had shit for games, you can't sell hardware if no one wants the software.

When Gran turismo 5, Final fantasy 13, Grand theft auto 4, Metal Gear Solid 4, SOCOM 4, Killzone 2, and Kingdom Hearts 3 come out..........thats gonna push some units right there.

I look at Sony's track record, and really just can't believe that they are going to tank. For the last 10 years they have been solid gold, a success all across the board.

Worst case scenario it will be their N64.

I remember when everyone thought Nintendo were going to go **** up. Sega went, and everyone watched between 1995 and 2000.

I can't see it with sony

Analyst: PS3 Is Sony’s Last Console
December 1st, 2006 by Armin Siljkovic in Hardware, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, Business, Articles
There has been no shortage of bad Sony news over the past months, everything from arrogant statements to console delays, and as a consequence, PlayStation creator Ken Kutaragi has been removed as SCE president. He now holds a “higher” rank, as SCE chairman, meaning he won’t make any big decisions anymore. Analyst Yuta Sakurai from Nomura Securities predicts that the PS3 will be Sony’s last console,

“The appointment of Hirai could be the start of a shift from hardware to software. I cannot now imagine a PlayStation 4. Hirai’s new global portfolio puts a predominantly software-focused manager in charge of the company.”

Sega went down the same path a few years ago, when the Dreamcast failed and the company became a software publisher. But that’s not the case with Sony, according to company PR chief Dave Karakker, who told GameSpot,

“Following the launch of the PlayStation 3 just a few weeks ago, and witnessing the huge consumer demand for the product, I think it would be rather short-sighted for anyone to predict there might not be a next generation of PlayStation product”

So there you go, everything is apparently alright at Sony. Despite receiving rather negative reviews, the PS3 has sold out in both Japan and North America.

This story is total and utter Bullshit:

Zeusdude2020Nov 15 2006, 08:58 PM

so i was strolling through Target and i found the PS3 demo goin but too little 7 year olds (i'm guessing) and they were playing that moto cycle game (dunno wat its called) and all of the sudden it started laggin real bad, and i looked at the PS3 and it was smoking! and then BOOM it caught fire! I was like WAT THE HELL! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! soon the Target people come by and put out the fire, it only spread to two other shelves and everything else was fine, come to find out, i asked about this, they said this was "version one" PS3 that didn't have the cooling fan built in....wat an adventure

true story

PS3'ing Ourselves

The most anticipated gaming system since the telephone, pacemaker and PS2 blew our asses out. Here's the play-by-play from opening the box to playing for hours…to seeing a doctor about our blown-out asses. Read More...

Originally posted by SheWants
PS3'ing Ourselves

The most anticipated gaming system since the telephone, pacemaker and PS2 blew our asses out. Here's the play-by-play from opening the box to playing for hours…to seeing a doctor about our blown-out asses. Read More...

What about the Dragon ball z game for ps2, when porte dto teh gamecube it looked a billion times better 🙂

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
Dude, when that thing came out:

When Gran turismo 5, Final fantasy 13, Grand theft auto 4, Metal Gear Solid 4, SOCOM 4, Killzone 2, and Kingdom Hearts 3 come out..........thats gonna push some units right there.

I look at Sony's track record, and really just can't believe that they are going to tank. For the last 10 years they have been solid gold, a success all across the board.

Worst case scenario it will be their N64.

I remember when everyone thought Nintendo were going to go **** up. Sega went, and everyone watched between 1995 and 2000.

I can't see it with sony

Analyst: PS3 Is Sony’s Last Console
December 1st, 2006 by Armin Siljkovic in Hardware, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, Business, Articles
There has been no shortage of bad Sony news over the past months, everything from arrogant statements to console delays, and as a consequence, PlayStation creator Ken Kutaragi has been removed as SCE president. He now holds a “higher” rank, as SCE chairman, meaning he won’t make any big decisions anymore. Analyst Yuta Sakurai from Nomura Securities predicts that the PS3 will be Sony’s last console,

“The appointment of Hirai could be the start of a shift from hardware to software. I cannot now imagine a PlayStation 4. Hirai’s new global portfolio puts a predominantly software-focused manager in charge of the company.”

Sega went down the same path a few years ago, when the Dreamcast failed and the company became a software publisher. But that’s not the case with Sony, according to company PR chief Dave Karakker, who told GameSpot,

“Following the launch of the PlayStation 3 just a few weeks ago, and witnessing the huge consumer demand for the product, I think it would be rather short-sighted for anyone to predict there might not be a next generation of PlayStation product”

So there you go, everything is apparently alright at Sony. Despite receiving rather negative reviews, the PS3 has sold out in both Japan and North America.

Well, the thing is those games wont come out for a very long time. KH3 will be atleast 3.5 years, GT5 will take probably another year or two, GTA4...well thats not an exclusive for Sony anymore being released at the same time as the 360's version. Who cares about Socom 4 and Killzone 2...please...the first game was crap, why would anybody buy that over Gears Of War and Halo.

I dont think Sony will not release another console, but what your saying in those quotes suggest that they might go towards software based business model.....nice way of using quotes.

And really, of course the PS3 sold out at launch...there was like 10 consoles per store.

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
Retail stores sold out of $600 videogame system. On the release day.

If that is not a sign for success, I don't know what is.

...

They only had 200,000 units for all of North America. Of course they're going to sell out, most things do sell out on launch day especially when there's very little supply.

At that ridiculous cost? I hope so. Sony has overpriced every console they put out, ever. When Ps1 first came out it was also $300, I bought it 3 years later at $100.

Originally posted by JToTheP
At that ridiculous cost? I hope so. Sony has overpriced every console they put out, ever. When Ps1 first came out it was also $300, I bought it 3 years later at $100.

so basically you miss out on all the good stuff and fall behind. 😉