Originally posted by Accel
Strange has auto-shields similar to GLs. Speedblitzes won't do squat but knock him around.
Originally posted by Soljer
The Surfer speedblitzes everyone.Then, Doc Strange's astral form kills the Surfer and turns back time.
Earth, 10/10.
Strange can also attack and cast spells in astral form (essentially invulnerable), leaving his body shielded by the bands of cytorrak (which took a supernova, leaving his body unscathed.)
Again Blitz faster than incantation..
Originally posted by Roldz
Heres a thing of all people Lt could have ask to bring back the soul gems who was weilded by 1 being from another Omniverse why'd he have to ask SS not Strange/Warlock but SS.. Meaning His proven himself in the eye or few from LT..
I always attributed that fact to the notion that SS is among the fastest living beings in the cosmos and his speed wouuld have been of a great use for this task. I didn't see it as him being superior to Strange. ALso because SS's soul is pure, he would not have any problems retrieving it
Originally posted by Roldz
Thats the first time i heared of it.. If you look at the Char.. thats totally out of his characteristic since his powers is based on spell casting.. Unlike a Gl.. programable ring, Strange does not have any programble spells.. that would be funny dough..
Originally posted by Accel
It's not really an opinion or speculation if the guy actually analyzes Hulk when he says it.
Doesn't mean that you can throw that scan down in ANY Hulk thread and say "The Hulk wins - no matter who he's fighting - their power is limited. Hulk's is infinite."
It doesn't quite work that way. PIS? Bad writing? Misinterpretations?
I would think that Dr. Strange, working in close proximity with the Surfer (I believe they were both Defenders at the time), would know the Surfer, know what he's capable of, either through experience or by mystical analysis. It seems logical that Strange, at the least, would mentally prepare what he'd do to take SS down, if it ever came to that.
But this is almost irrelevant. Surfer has prep; this implies an element of surprise. These give SS a significant edge.
Originally posted by AccelWasn't Beyonder ret-conned to be an illusion, so if we take the ret-con into consideration, then Beyonder was just lying about everything.
No, you can use it so prove his strength is limitless. People just need to know that alone isn't enough to win every battle.
Originally posted by LordFear
I always attributed that fact to the notion that SS is among the fastest living beings in the cosmos and his speed wouuld have been of a great use for this task. I didn't see it as him being superior to Strange. ALso because SS's soul is pure, he would not have any problems retrieving it
Originally posted by Accel
If the guy only had human durability, he'd have died a long time ago. Having something to give him superhuman durability so he can face all the monsters he takes down is perfectly within his character.
Originally posted by Soljer
And the Beyonder said the Hulk is an infinity of power. 😱On panel feats is ranked first to speculation and/or opinions stated by characters.
Originally posted by Mindship
I would think that Dr. Strange, working in close proximity with the Surfer (I believe they were both Defenders at the time), would know the Surfer, know what he's capable of, either through experience or by mystical analysis. It seems logical that Strange, at the least, would mentally prepare what he'd do to take SS down, if it ever came to that.But this is almost irrelevant. Surfer has prep; this implies an element of surprise. These give SS a significant edge.
Dr. Strange was even shown sometimes to be on level of abstracts.
I think he is written too powerful.
About his human reflexes and speed and durability, I don't think so, I mean he has fought on highest level, so I think his refelxes are also top notch and everything else.
He also has shield around all the time.
Originally posted by bigbran
Wasn't Beyonder ret-conned to be an illusion, so if we take the ret-con into consideration, then Beyonder was just lying about everything.
Thus, that never happened. Anything with the Beyonder in that series wouldn't be able to be used, but everything else would be (with other characters).
Originally posted by Roldz
If you can prove that Strange augmented himself via mystical ways (scanzz) then i agree with you but as far as i know his normal human durability cept when casting protective spells.. He gets blits by the likes of SS/Runner/Flash/Supes quite easy w/out prep, therefore his the 1 of the 1st to fall in this match up..
Originally posted by Accel
Don't see where you came to that conclusion, as he actually analyzed him before he said any thing.I never said he augmented himself. I said he has [b]auto-shields
, meaning whenever something attacks him, these skin-tight shields save him. This way, he doesn't have to worry about putting up spells before being attacked. [/B]
Im pretty sure Strange would know whats his talkin about specially since theyve known each other for a very long time but that doesnt mean SS win the fight all the time if this 2 faces of in comics.. But one thing for sure Strange couldnt handle Franken SS and it took SS to stop him...
W/ prep he can probably cast a spell to shield himself but nothing like programable auto shield.. If he took injuries from an assault by Ghost Rider, SS 100+ tonner going at above say mach 10, im pretty sure Strange would get killed by a blitz like that..