Originally posted by Soljer
Speed? Thanos is superhuman the same way the Hulk is. He can move fast cause he is strong as a mother ****er.Reflexes? Thanos' got them in spades.
Seriously, you guys should just read up on Thanos a bit more.
"he can move fast cause he is strong as a mother***er". No he can't. Period. End of discussion.
Reflexes ? His reflexes are probably better than mine, but that would be it. I have seen nothing from Thanos to make me think differently.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Boy oh boy oh boySeriously, you guys should just read up on Thanos a bit more.
"he can move fast cause he is strong as a mother***er". No he can't. Period. End of discussion.
Reflexes ? His reflexes are probably better than mine, but that would be it. I have seen nothing from Thanos to make me think differently.
*scratches head*
Avoiding Speedblitzes from the Surfer, plastering the Fallen One on a shield an instant before he needs to, and putting up a shield to block a hammer throw from Thor - someone we know regularly throws the Hammer at light or faster than light speeds?
Slightly better than yours, hm?
Also, I meant that as far as sheer SPEED - travelling speed, he is only moderately superhumanly fast like the hulk is, powerful leg muscles and the like.
As far as reflexes go, though, he is beyond that ilk. As can be evidenced from his feats.
Originally posted by Kid KurdyThe "panel art indicated it..." ? Are you sure it wasn't just your imagination ?
No wrong. Spider-Man speedblitzes a lot, and he can't fly.
But I think we already had this discussion. [/B]
yes. if memory serves me correctly, there was perspective bending during the panel of fallen one flying. you know, bent light and all that. this has been used to indicate FTL since the star trek/wars days.
regardless of spiderman speedblitzing, flying at somebody FTL constitutes the start of a speedblitz. do you agree with that?
and if you are been flown at FTL, and then stop this object with a gesture mere feet from you, it implies you yourself have tremendously superhuman reflexes. do you agree with that?
Originally posted by Soljer
*scratches head*Avoiding Speedblitzes from the Surfer, plastering the Fallen One on a shield an instant before he needs to, and putting up a shield to block a hammer throw from Thor - someone we know regularly throws the Hammer at light or faster than light speeds?
Slightly better than yours, hm?
Also, I meant that as far as sheer SPEED - travelling speed, he is only moderately superhumanly fast like the hulk is, powerful leg muscles and the like.
As far as reflexes go, though, he is beyond that ilk. As can be evidenced from his feats.
Fallen One : you can argue what you want, but there isn't the slightest indication how fast FO was going. You shout "light speed" because it makes Thanos look fast, but you are just guessing.
Thor : so now Thor threw his hammer at the speed of light at Thanos ? Evidence to back this up ? Thor just threw his hammer, again no indication of light speed or even the speed of sound.
Do you want me to make a list of people who simply dodged his hammer ? Captain America, Puma, Spider-Man...
Travelling speed : no he isn't that fast. Hulk is known for his speed, he has superhuman reflexes and incredibly powerful legs. That's why he can jump so high.
Thanos can't jump that high, neither can Juggernaut or Colossus ? Why ? Because their legs aren't as powerful. Same thing for running.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Well I guess you only read what you want to read, right ?Fallen One : you can argue what you want, but there isn't the slightest indication how fast FO was going. You shout "light speed" because it makes Thanos look fast, but you are just guessing.
Thor : so now Thor threw his hammer at the speed of light at Thanos ? Evidence to back this up ? Thor just threw his hammer, again no indication of light speed or even the speed of sound.
Do you want me to make a list of people who simply dodged his hammer ? Captain America, Puma, Spider-Man...
Travelling speed : no he isn't that fast. Hulk is known for his speed, he has superhuman reflexes and incredibly powerful legs. That's why he can jump so high.
Thanos can't jump that high, neither can Juggernaut or Colossus ? Why ? Because their legs aren't as powerful. Same thing for running.
Thanos is a HELL of a lot stronger than the Hulk.
Yet his legs aren't as powerful? 😕
Fallen One: As the above mentioned, warping of light usually indicates faster than light.
You didn't address the Surfer feats, either, though I will give you the Thor one.
So, who says that WE are the ones that are only reading into the comic what we wish? You're just as guilty, you're making as many assumptions as we are - we just happen to have a bit of common sense to back up our assumptions.
You know what the difference is ? You assume a lot, and I go by feats.
You say : Thanos is stronger. I say : probably, but not that much. Hulk has strength feats a gogo, Thanos has how many "amazing" strength feats ? One or two ?
Seriously, I don't know a single strength feat of Thanos that an enraged Hulk couldn't do also.
Oh I forgot about Surfer : well it's pretty simple : Surfer never uses his speed against Thanos. Surfer is like a million times faster, but for some reason, he likes to fly right into Thanos' fist.
Originally posted by Kid KurdyMaybe he is as strong, maybe he isn't.
You know what the difference is ? You assume a lot, and I go by feats.You say : Thanos is stronger. I say : probably, but not that much. Hulk has strength feats a gogo, Thanos has how many "amazing" strength feats ? One or two ?
Seriously, I don't know a single strength feat of Thanos that an enraged Hulk couldn't do also.
Oh I forgot about Surfer : well it's pretty simple : Surfer never uses his speed against Thanos. Surfer is like a million times faster, but for some reason, he likes to fly right into Thanos' fist.
Oh I got a feat, has Hulk ever really hurt Silver Surfer? I remember Bannerless Hulk doing nothing more than throwing Surfer, and Surfer even showed him up in that.
I like that, you know why?
Silver Surfer, on panel went lightspeed in only a couple of seconds. Thanos saw this, and simply dodged it. So Surfer tried to catch Thanos of guard, and he even went faster than light, hmm, reflexes?
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Reflexes ? His reflexes are probably better than mine, but that would be it. I have seen nothing from Thanos to make me think differently.
Obviously you're not thinking hard enough if you conveniently forget that Thanos managed to react and move his hand while Surfer was trying to steal the Infinity Gauntlet at several thousand times light speed.
Originally posted by boriquaking55
Obviously you're not thinking hard enough if you conveniently forget that Thanos managed to react and move his hand while Surfer was trying to steal the Infinity Gauntlet at several thousand times light speed.
a. Surfer wasn't going "thousands times the speed of light". Where do you get that idea ?
b. It doesn't matter, because Thanos had the IG and was all powerful, so it was not normal Thanos.
Originally posted by Kid KurdyUmm, it said that Silver Surfer went a lightyear in a couple of seconds. (or about the time it took for Thanos to rise his hand in the air)
Another WILD assumption.a. Surfer wasn't going "thousands times the speed of light". Where do you get that idea ?
b. It doesn't matter, because Thanos had the IG and was all powerful, so it was not normal Thanos.
Wild indeed...
Thanos had completely turned off all the other gems.
Go read the comic, and you'll see that when he does it he says, that he would have no idea what people were going to do next, he would only have the power gem.
So basically, any thing that has to do with strength, and other things has to do with the IG.
Originally posted by bigbran
Umm, it said that Silver Surfer went a lightyear in a couple of seconds. (or about the time it took for Thanos to rise his hand in the air)
Thanos had completely turned off all the other gems.... he would only have the power gem
Or do you think that the power gem alone can turn Thanos into a giant ? Or turn Thor into glass (or crystal) ? Or throw Drax and Hulk back in time ? Or turn adamantium in rubber ?
Originally posted by Kid KurdyNo, he said he was only going to use the Power Gem. In that fight right after he turned off the gems, you could see the difference. He stopped time, he dodged every attack, and he even took a couple just to make them look worthless. He said he couldn't read what there next move would be.
see below.
[B]
No he didn't. He just wasn't omniscient anymore, because he tried to impress Death. He didn't "turn off" all the gems, they were working just fine.Or do you think that the power gem alone can turn Thanos into a giant ? Or turn Thor into glass (or crystal) ? Or throw Drax and Hulk back in time ? Or turn adamantium in rubber ?
Basically the rest is irrelevent.
Originally posted by bigbran
No, he said he was only going to use the Power Gem.
Sensory input is the keyword. He was just as powerful as with a full working IG, but his omniscience was gone (or, as you wish, his "sensory input" coming from all the gems).
In that fight right after he turned off the gems, you could see the difference. He stopped time
This was AFTER he "turned off" the other gems. How can he do that with only the power gem ? He can't. He used every single gem available, except their power to give him omniscience.
He even said it himself : I would retain limitless powers, yet not know my enemies next move.
That's the only difference.
Sensory input is not the same as power. BIG difference.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Another WILD assumption.a. Surfer wasn't going "thousands times the speed of light". Where do you get that idea ?
b. It doesn't matter, because Thanos had the IG and was all powerful, so it was not normal Thanos.
Simple mathematics, it was stated he was several light-years away and he reached Thanos in about a second. He was going far faster than light-speed. What's to assume?
In addition, Thanos was powered down at the time; he was only using the Power Gem during those panels.
On second thought, did you actually read the book? 😕
