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Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
I don't think that fight is cannon.

BP 6 or 7, during the HOM.

Yes, its cannon, because the HOM effected the 616, just ask Professor X, or countless other mutants.

That doesn't make the events that occurred in the intervening time necessarily cannon. It simply means that the Scarlet Witch's second remake of reality back to the way it was with some modifications is cannon.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
BP 6 or 7, during the HOM.

Yes, its cannon, because the HOM effected the 616, just ask Professor X, or countless other mutants.

Hasnt Capt said like a thousand times that while HOM is cannon, the flashbacks are not.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That doesn't make the events that occurred in the intervening time necessarily cannon. It simply means that the Scarlet Witch's second remake of reality back to the way it was with some modifications is cannon.

Opinions, this argument could go either way, for example, Wanda altered reality to her shaping, no one remembers earth 616 before wanda altered it, therefore it WAS REAL to everyone in the 616, she did not alter BP nor sabretooths powers, he was still a heartless killing machine, and BP was still the wakandian king, the things that happened during the HOM were cannon.

What if Scarlet which decided in the very next issue to alter reality again, and give the mutants there powers back in this said reality, would everything that happened thus far be considered non-cannon?

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Hasnt Capt said like a thousand times that while HOM is cannon, the flashbacks are not.

So capt is KMC's voice of reason these days. If he tells you jumping off a brigde is healthy, would you drink a gatorade, do some streches, then leap off in hopes of losing a couple pounds?

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Opinions, this argument could go either way, for example, Wanda altered reality to her shaping, no one remembers earth 616 before wanda altered it, therefore it WAS REAL to everyone in the 616, she did not alter BP nor sabretooths powers, he was still a heartless killing machine, and BP was still the wakandian king, the things that happened during the HOM were cannon.

What if Scarlet which decided in the very next issue to alter reality again, and give the mutants there powers back in this said reality, would everything that happened thus far be considered non-cannon?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
In the HoM Sabretooth was killed. He is currently alive and part of Rogue's X-Men team, and iirc afaik has an adamantium skeleton. Him dying is subsequently not cannon.

Because wanda decided to return everything as it was after magneto lost it, had that not happened, we would still be in the HOM right now.

That fight between the two is a fair representation of there skill, no Sabretooth didn't have his adamantium skeleton, but he was still sabretooth, he didn't land a hit, and was killed in 2 pages.

You didn't answer my question, if wanda altered so the mutants got there powers back, would everything that has happened thus far be considered non-cannon.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
So capt is KMC's voice of reason these days. If he tells you jumping off a brigde is healthy, would you drink a gatorade, do some streches, then leap off in hopes of losing a couple pounds?

No. But, when it comes to matters concerning Sabertooth/Wolverine, I find him to be more credible then you. 😬

Simply, because I take it to be his area of expertise, where he has shown alot of knowledge in the past.

Though, when it comes to alot of other stuff, don't take everything that he says to be correct 😬

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
No. But, when it comes to matters concerning Sabertooth/Wolverine, I find him to be more credible then you. 😬

Simply, because I take it to be his area of expertise, where he has shown alot of knowledge in the past.

Though, when it comes to alot of other stuff, don't take everything that he says to be correct 😬

Thats cool, the only problem with this is we are discussing if the HOM is cannon or not.

See what I mean.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Thats cool, the only problem with this is we are discussing if the HOM is cannon or not.

See what I mean.

Right... and I'm simply reitterating a speech he made a dozen times on whether that appearance of Sabes is cannon.

Anyways, like I said, HOM is cannon, the flashbacks are not.

I think it's because the flashbacks were created by Wanda... while the actual action in HOM was the characters own actions. Because of that, it could have happened very differently. It's basically the difference between actors and sock puppets.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
You didn't answer my question, if wanda altered so the mutants got there powers back, would everything that has happened thus far be considered non-cannon.