Originally posted by snoopdogg
I wouldn't call it a hole I would call it a graze if anything. But it would take alot of power to do that so I would say IF is packing a CL 100 punch or higher. Colossus has taken blows from Juggernaut and Gladiator before with less damage than that.
But that punch killed him ... otherwise the Exiles wouldn't have moved on from that world.
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Originally posted by ScooblessI know this. He bled to death cause of the wound and of the lack of medical attention. IF damaged him, that's for sure. But he didn't punch a hole through him as you can see in the last scan.
But that punch killed him ... otherwise the Exiles wouldn't have moved on from that world.😐
in the 'return of the dragon' storyline in black panther, danny's powers were restored by the black dragon, who put danny under some voodoo and made him attack t'challa. in the next issue, which was a 'nuff said issue and had no dialogue, t'challa avoids a good number of the punches before getting buffeted around like a ragdoll. a comment is made that he only withstood the incredible beating due to his vibranium underweave, which took heavy damage in the attack.
remember in 616 where colossus received insane injuries that forced him to stay in metal form or he'd die from the trauma to his flesh-and-blood body? he didn't bleed to death there, yet he did here. just saying.
Originally posted by Disappear
in the 'return of the dragon' storyline in black panther, danny's powers were restored by the black dragon, who put danny under some voodoo and made him attack t'challa. in the next issue, which was a 'nuff said issue and had no dialogue, t'challa avoids a good number of the punches before getting buffeted around like a ragdoll. a comment is made that he only withstood the incredible beating due to his vibranium underweave, which took heavy damage in the attack.remember in 616 where colossus received insane injuries that forced him to stay in metal form or he'd die from the trauma to his flesh-and-blood body? he didn't bleed to death there, yet he did here. just saying.
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Good points.
Originally posted by Disappear
in the 'return of the dragon' storyline in black panther, danny's powers were restored by the black dragon, who put danny under some voodoo and made him attack t'challa. in the next issue, which was a 'nuff said issue and had no dialogue, t'challa avoids a good number of the punches before getting buffeted around like a ragdoll. a comment is made that he only withstood the incredible beating due to his vibranium underweave, which took heavy damage in the attack.remember in 616 where colossus received insane injuries that forced him to stay in metal form or he'd die from the trauma to his flesh-and-blood body? he didn't bleed to death there, yet he did here. just saying.
Originally posted by Scoobless
A class of it's ownAbove the Thing (or possibly the Hulk)
Straight through Colossus without knocking him over .... that's pretty damn impressive.
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That should have k.o'd whoever it hit. It's not just a punch backed by a lot of power, it's backed by energy and body magic which affects the person's nervous system.
A full on full powered IF punch would k.o Thing with ease. ONE punch from his fist RIPPED apart a thick layer of friggin' vibranium! Hulk has shown unable to do that.
Originally posted by long pig
PIS.That should have k.o'd whoever it hit. It's not just a punch backed by a lot of power, it's backed by energy and body magic which affects the person's nervous system.
A full on full powered IF punch would k.o Thing with ease. ONE punch from his fist RIPPED apart a thick layer of friggin' vibranium! Hulk has shown unable to do that.
Quoted for truth.
Originally posted by capt it up
that was not 616 that was aoa and magneto was the reason he did not die
it happened in the 616 just following x-cutioner's song [or possibly an unrelated experience involving the x-cutioner.] the aoa example, which had nothing to do with magneto as far as i know, happened years later in the divergent timeline. that's not what i was talking about.
to clarify, colossus was first injured by the marauder riptide, whose organic throwing stars punctured piotr's body, and left in a state in which his bioenergy was literally leaking from him. this is the event in which magneto aided him, though he eventually overcame his inability to return to human form. uncanny x-men 212 until whenever.
in uncanny x-men annual 17, as well as uncanny x-men issue 301, he was left in a state of severe trauma by a battle with the x-cutioner, after which he could not return to his human form for risk of dying immediately. this is what i was referencing.
Originally posted by Disappear
in the 'return of the dragon' storyline in black panther, danny's powers were restored by the black dragon, who put danny under some voodoo and made him attack t'challa. in the next issue, which was a 'nuff said issue and had no dialogue, t'challa avoids a good number of the punches before getting buffeted around like a ragdoll. a comment is made that he only withstood the incredible beating due to his vibranium underweave, which took heavy damage in the attack.
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Uh, Colossus isn't supposed to bleed in his metal form, he does that in here.Who knows what other chances are there to his powers in this reality.. From what I read, in this universe Colossus joined the Heroes for hire, instead of X-men. So, maybe this Colossus never faced Riptide, was wounded and then upgraded by Magneto. Meaning this Colossus would be weaker than the 616 version. And wasnt Colossus first supposed to have only metal skin, not entire body..?
instead? why not after? the "avengers package" implies that other superteams existed in that universe, so who can say what did or did not happen in terms of a similar history to 616. for all we know, colossus went through numerous missions which ended worse for him than the encounter with riptide. that's neither here nor there, however. with no physical similarities explicitly written out, this colossus bleeds to death because danny punched through his stomach.
Originally posted by Disappear
instead? why not after? the "avengers package" implies that other superteams existed in that universe, so who can say what did or did not happen in terms of a similar history to 616. for all we know, colossus went through numerous missions which ended worse for him than the encounter with riptide. that's neither here nor there, however. with no physical similarities explicitly written out, this colossus bleeds to death because danny punched through his stomach.
Well, yeah, except that 616 Colossus doesn't bleed blood.
Originally posted by snoopdoggUmm, ya he did, look at the third scan when he is holding Danny, there is metal ripped where his hole is.
I know this. He bled to death cause of the wound and of the lack of medical attention. IF damaged him, that's for sure. But he didn't punch a hole through him as you can see in the last scan.
*remembers when people said that IF couldn't ko Wolverine*
