Avengers vs. Weapon X

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meh, not really that interested, thanks. But I would like to know where it says that his blasts are 15,000,000 K, and/or uses a blast that has a temperature of 15,000,000 K. Generally when someone makes a claim the onus is on them to provide proof positive. Scan or issue number would suffice.

Read the Extremis arc.

There you go.

See now that's 6 issues I'd have to download and filter through to find a single line. 😬

It would be a whole lot easier if you'd just tell me a single issue where it says his blasts are now 15,000,000 K. Alternatively a scan would be even better.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
See now that's 6 issues I'd have to download and filter through to find a single line. 😬

It would be a whole lot easier if you'd just tell me a single issue where it says his blasts are now 15,000,000 K. Alternatively a scan would be even better.

If I had a scanner, or the issues on hand, I'd tell you. However, it's not a bad read, so it's not like I'm twisting your arm.

You mean the issue where he blasted Graviton with heat blasts? Those blasts were nowhere near the centre of Sun...

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
He's made armours to battle Heralds and King Thor, both who are capable of doing the same thing. It's not out of Tony's league.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
You mean the issue where he blasted Graviton with heat blasts? Those blasts were nowhere near the centre of Sun...

To do so he had to stop there and power up.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I just looked. It says at 73% power output, he reached 10,073 K. A far cry from the 15,000,000 K at the centre of the sun... 😬

To do so he had to stop there and power up.

Even so, he's still faster than Sinister could come close to. Also, he's never taken anything like that before.

I don't see a blast of heat that didn't kill Graviton, turning Sinister to "ash in a second."

He is much faster than Sinister, and I see him probably managing to contain Sinister with his prep, but I don't see him in and of his own power killing Sinister with a blast.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I don't see a blast of heat that didn't kill Graviton, turning Sinister to "ash in a second."

He is much faster than Sinister, and I see him probably managing to contain Sinister with his prep, but I don't see him in and of his own power killing Sinister with a blast.

Has Sinister ever been hit with anything like that before? The X-Men don't exactly have a lot of top tiers in their squads that aren't psychics.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
You need to read up on Iron Man

You need to pay more attention to what you're reading, IM can generate heat hotter than the surface of the sun ... nowhere near the core though.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meh, not really that interested, thanks. But I would like to know where it says that his blasts are 15,000,000 K, and/or uses a blast that has a temperature of 15,000,000 K. Generally when someone makes a claim the onus is on them to provide proof positive. Scan or issue number would suffice.

He can't.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Has Sinister ever been hit with anything like that before? The X-Men don't exactly have a lot of top tiers in their squads that aren't psychics.

Weapon X. Sinister's team is overall stronger, with Sauron, Sabretooth and Deadpool, and he is a match to Iron Man, so they win 6/10.

Originally posted by Omega-level
Weapon X. Sinister's team is overall stronger, with Sauron, Sabretooth and Deadpool, and he is a match to Iron Man, so they win 6/10.

Well, though I hate to say it, Deadpool is pretty evenly matched by more then one member of the other team.

Agent Zero, however, is a threat to be reckoned with.

I think Sinister could be held off long enough throughout the battle, that it would probably come down to Ironman vs. Sinister. Spidey would probably last a while too

Meh if Iron Man stops moving he has his neck snapped and heart pulled out by TK.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meh if Iron Man stops moving he has his neck snapped and heart pulled out by TK.

Well, I doubt Sinister could do that while suffering under a barrage of attacks.

Another idea occured to me- if she survives long enough, could Spider-Woman potentially affect Sinister with her pheromones before? She's certainly shown the ability in the past during battle.

Well, you said telepathy couldn't be used offensively. But to everyone except for probably Iron Man Sinister can simply remain invisible due to telepathy used defensively, so the only attacks on him are probably coming from Iron Man anyway.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Well, you said telepathy couldn't be used offensively. But to everyone except for probably Iron Man Sinister can simply remain invisible due to telepathy used defensively, so the only attacks on him are probably coming from Iron Man anyway.

Well, I wouldn't put it past Wolverine to sniff him out.

I'm not up-to-date on CW. Has Spidey deposited his Iron Suit yet? I'm guessing so, but, if he hasn't, and we're going by current characters, he could pull the same trick.

Wolverine might be able to, but with complete control of his body's cells I'd wager he can become scentless. Sabretooth can do the same to an invisible Spider-Man and regardless an invisible Spider-Man still really isn't anything of a thread to Sinister.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Wolverine might be able to, but with complete control of his body's cells I'd wager he can become scentless. Sabretooth can do the same to an invisible Spider-Man and regardless an invisible Spider-Man still really isn't anything of a thread to Sinister.

With complete control, I'd reckon he could also become immune to Spider-Woman's pheromones... IF he realized he was being affected by them.

Spiderman could be a threat to some of the others however. He could take out some of them (Agent Zero, Marrow, etc.) while Ironman and the others keep Sinister occupied long enough for Ironman to deploy some sort of containment device that rejects telekinetic frequencies. Maybe.