beta ray bill vs gladiator

Started by Accel4 pages
Accel Senior Member

Originally posted by bigbran
Oh, so your not talking about the Thor, that, beat Loki, and Fenris (both had hammers, almost exactly like Thor's), in one page, without a hammer, with speed, skill, and strength?

That's supposed to convince me he can react to a speedblitz of this caliber?

Accel Senior Member

Originally posted by Martian_mind
superman was also knocked out by a gas explosion spider man took firelord and champion for all his supposed might almost always loses hulk beats thor stuff like this happens

The difference here is, Thor is consistently shown to NOT have FTL reflexes. It's not just some random incident every now and then.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Accel
That's supposed to convince me he can react to a speedblitz of this caliber?
First, your going to need to show me a scan of Gladiator speedblitzing.
I don't remember him really doing one, especially to someone like Beta.

Roldz MAJIN_OVERLORD

Ahh but the hammer is as fast as BRB's thoughts, so even dough BRB is below Glads in reflex the hammer compensate for that, and all you need is a good hit from BRB or the hammer and hed be on top, brutal and merciless, Glads however is not...

Martian_mind telepathy+debates+=Pwned

Consistently wat other events besides the one you listed show him as slow

Accel Senior Member

Originally posted by bigbran
First, your going to need to show me a scan of Gladiator speedblitzing.
I don't remember him really doing one, especially to someone like Beta.

You actually need evidence that "I can move at hyper speeds" Gladiator can speedblitz?

Martian_mind telepathy+debates+=Pwned

He has bigbran but i still doubt he can speedblitz bill

Accel Senior Member

Originally posted by Roldz
Ahh but the hammer is as fast as BRB's thoughts, so even dough BRB is below Glads in reflex the hammer compensate for that, and all you need is a good hit from BRB or the hammer and hed be on top, brutal and merciless, Glads however is not...

At the same time all Glads needs to do is knock Stormbreaker out of his hands. The whole point of the argument that BRB's reflex are below Gladiator's is that he's not going to get the chance to hit him with his hammer.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Accel
You actually need evidence that "I can move at hyper speeds" Gladiator can speedblitz?
Hey, Surfer can't speedblitz because he hasn't really done one in comics.

Accel Senior Member

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Consistently wat other events besides the one you listed show him as slow

Not really slow, he's just not that fast in the reaction department.

Really, there's nothing to convince me he can move faster than some metahumans.

Martian_mind telepathy+debates+=Pwned

bill doesnt become human if he loses stormbreaker plus he can still control the weather so it would be hard for glads to speedblitz if bill is surrounded by lightning

Accel Senior Member

Originally posted by bigbran
Hey, Surfer can't speedblitz because he hasn't really done one in comics.

Says who?

Accel Senior Member

Originally posted by Martian_mind
bill doesnt become human if he loses stormbreaker plus he can still control the weather so it would be hard for glads to speedblitz if bill is surrounded by lightning

Kallark will already be on him before he can do any thing. That's the point I'm trying to make here.

UniOmni Outrageously Dickish

Me.

Its not right to say that Surfer can speedblitz, when he's never shown it on panel.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Accel
Says who?
Go in the Surfer vs DC Earth, and say he speedblitzes someone.

Roldz MAJIN_OVERLORD

Originally posted by Accel
At the same time all Glads needs to do is knock Stormbreaker out of his hands. The whole point of the argument that BRB's reflex are below Gladiator's is that he's not going to get the chance to hit him with his hammer.

Thats what i mean and would be at BRBs advantage, Glads be fighting 2 opponents... BRB and the hammer / is controlled by thought and is a lot faster than BRB..

Martian_mind telepathy+debates+=Pwned

Hes blocked bullets by moving one arm hes moved faster than a human can see and ran new york in a heartbeat also been described as fast as lightning so obviously if he can run that fast he ust react faster

Accel Senior Member

Originally posted by UniOmni
Me.

Its not right to say that Surfer can speedblitz, when he's never shown it on panel.


I frankly see it as a silly point to say someone can't speedblitz some one else when they clearly have the speed advantage, such as this fight.

Accel Senior Member

Originally posted by Roldz
Thats what i mean and would be at BRBs advantage, Glads be fighting 2 opponents... BRB and the hammer / is controlled by thought and is a lot faster than BRB..

Stormbreaker doesn't have a mind of its own. It's controlled by BRB, who's not as fast as Glads.

Accel Senior Member

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Hes blocked bullets by moving one arm hes moved faster than a human can see and ran new york in a heartbeat also been described as fast as lightning so obviously if he can run that fast he ust react faster

Because we all know Gladiator only moves as fast as a speeding bullet.