Originally posted by darthgoober
That clone my have been BASED off of Gladiator, but it was more powerful than the original(all of those closes were). It basically had Gladiators powers, but they were amped up to the point that he'd be a match for Thanos. So that's hardly a bad showing on Warlock's part.
warlock is not going to be taking superman soul remember in action comic infinite crisis tie in when the spectre came after satanus(spelling). Satanus and superman made a deal in which superman will give him his soul and than satanus will let the souls of the innocent go. but in the end satanus was not able to take superman soul.
can anyone explain to me how was hercules able to beat warlock
Originally posted by hunbu04
warlock is not going to be taking superman soul remember in action comic infinite crisis tie in when the spectre came after satanus(spelling). Satanus and superman made a deal in which superman will give him his soul and than satanus will let the souls of the innocent go. but in the end satanus was not able to take superman soul.
can anyone explain to me how was hercules able to beat warlock
I'm pretty sure that was a mistype.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Hercules never beat Warlock.I'm pretty sure that was a mistype.
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actually, hercules beat him rather soundly in a straight up, 1on1 fight . . .
i've posted the scans at LEAST twice on the forum, so i'm loathed to do so again. karmic blasts were ineffective. aw got in some decent shots and used his speed and skill to avoid herc, until . . . he couldn't avoid him. herc grabbed him and pummeled him into near-unconsciousness and was ready to finish him when the avengers snapped out of their mind-control and stopped herc.
no mistype. herc kicked his golden arse. soundly. 😉
ps--herc rocks.
I was introduced to comics through the Infinity Gauntlet. I remember my most prized possession being the first issue of Infinity Watch. I collected it pretty thoroughly. As much as I love him, I think Adam Warlock is highly overestimated. Yeah, he's got intangibles and him being able to make Galactus look like a tool cemented him as one of my all-time favorites... but he can be physically beaten to submission even with the Soul Gem. And his karmic blasts, unless upgraded recently never appeared to be as devastating as opined here.
Yes, Superman has a soul. But I don't think Superman's soul is quite so easily obliterated. There are many a reference to it, but I think Superman's existence is hinged to reality itself, by DC's standards. You destroy him and you destroy an important part of DC reality. Superman/Batman referenced this when they travelled different realities. IC alleged that everything in reality comes from Superman-2 apparently. The Omega Effect doesn't work on Superman. So on and so forth. Now I'm not saying this insulates him from defeat since I consider him getting knocked unconscious as a defeat, but that particular safeguard of his could be extended to his soul, his very essence, not quite so easily manipulated. Basically, I'm not quite so ready to say he gets wrecked by karmic blasts or Soul Gem use.
You can armor yourself against karmic blasts issued from the Soul Gem. Physical and energy matrices can dampen its effect. Read Infinity Watch #5 and you'll see Warlock's Soul Gem karmic blasts rendered ineffectual against highly advanced armor. So, in my preference, I'd like to reduce this fight down to whether Warlock could get to it mano-y-mano. Here is where it gets fun for me, cuz Warlock ain't no pushover. Yeah, sometimes he gets pushed around, but he is a highly effective personal fighter in addition to being one of MU's greatest strategists.
My take... I still think just as Adam Warlock can hide from the Infinity Gauntlet, Galactus' wrath, and the literal destruction of the universe... Superman's own independence or at the very least vital importance to DC reality should insulate him from complete ownage to karmic blasts and Soul Gem. In that case... I have no idea who'd win, cuz I've seen Adam Warlock fight fists-to-balls hardcore as anyone else I've ever seen against physically superior beings. Maybe I'll scan some of my old Infinity Watch comics, particularly Infinity Watch #5 to demonstrate this.