Who Is Stronger?

Started by olympian9 pages

Originally posted by Soujaboy
If his weight was the equivalent to Eternity as you stated, than a single step would have destroyed the moon.

An Anaconda being larger, and weighing more than me, could wrap itself around my body, and I wouldn't be destroyed. So no, the earth wouldn't necessarily be destroyed, not at first at least.

Everyone knows that the DC Moon is the strongest one there is.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
They slowed down the fall of Eternity as the scan says. If they failed the Moon would have been destroyed. It's a valid feat. Like I said above. If he would have landed yes the Moon would have been destroyed. I mean if the Serpent weighed so much the Earth would have been destroyed also. BTW why hasn't anybody posted those yet?

Oh and those scans you posted were not very impressive considering Thor has a magic hammer and all. What has Thor done under his own strength?

And back on topic I do think Sentry has potential to be everybit as strong as Superman. We just have not seen it yet.

Where was it stated that if they let the Spectre fall, the Moon would be destroyed for sure?

How much does Eternity "weigths"? Its a measure of what exactly?

This feat its as valid as claiming the Midgard Serpent weigthed more than the Earth or not or that it matched "infinity". No statement was given. What makes it worthwhile in a debate its the fact that the struggle between the Serpent and Thor was having side effects around Earth.

All the Spectre did was barely having an effect on the Moon.

Snoop. You have all encounters between Thor and the Serpent at SHC in the respect forum. Including that one.

Your question about what Thor has one with force only..the basic same thing Superman also does? Time rip? Planet shaking force? Island moving force? Matching top tiers?

I would say Sentry=Superman>Thor. Thors Serpent feat leaves no indication how much the damm thing weighed. I never saw the Spectre feat but I heard it was stated his body contains the weight of Eternity which atleast gives us a idea. Eternity is endless.

So I say again Sentry is atleast equal to Superman.

All they said was that "Eternity" was "heavy". Nothing else.

Thats vague as heck.

How do you weigh Eternity?

Bingo.

Anyway, for me Sentry is Superman class.

I researched ancient Norse Mythology and Marvel comics. In marvel and Norse mythology, Thor only lifted a portion of the World Serpent (The A section). We don't even know the weight of this section let alone the weight of the entire serpent. In norse mythology he failed to lift the serpent but maybe only budged it (since only one of the four feet of the cat came up making the cat still connected to the ground). But the feat was still impressive.

Plus it is in only Norse mythology (not marvel) that Thor fished for Jormungand. The stories also say that this is before it grew to wrap itself around the world (After odin threw it there). Thus it was much smaller than when it grew to become the world serpent.

Originally posted by h1a8
I researched ancient Norse Mythology and Marvel comics. In marvel and Norse mythology, Thor only lifted a portion of the World Serpent (The A section). We don't even know the weight of this section let alone the weight of the entire serpent. In norse mythology he failed to lift the serpent but maybe only budged it (since only one of the four feet of the cat came up making the cat still connected to the ground). But the feat was still impressive.

Plus it is in only Norse mythology (not marvel) that Thor fished for Jormungand. The stories also say that this is before it grew to wrap itself around the world (After odin threw it there). Thus it was much smaller than when it grew to become the world serpent.

Errrmmm...

While Norse mythology is all well and good, Thor HAS lifted the Midgard serpent. Twice.

Originally posted by h1a8
The stories also say that this is before it grew to wrap itself around the world (After odin threw it there).

This is the first time I have heard about this.

Originally posted by h1a8

Thus it was much smaller than when it grew to become the world serpent.

Are you talking about when he went fishing? As far as I know it was fully grown then, even when he tried to lift it at Utgard Lokis place.

Originally posted by Soljer
Errrmmm...

While Norse mythology is all well and good, Thor HAS lifted the Midgard serpent. Twice.

Umh not.
He lifted only a portion in Marvel (the A section).
He fished a smaller version (before it grew to wrap itself around the world) in Norse Mythology (not marvel). Why don't you research this yourself.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Are you talking about when he went fishing? As far as I know it was fully grown then, even when he tried to lift it at Utgard Lokis place.

Uhmm no.
Odin threw it in the water earlier. After awhile it grew to wrap itself around the world (became the world serpent). I read this myself in my research. Otherwise how could Thor lift it out of the water if it is around the world then? All this happen in Norse Mythology (not Marvel).

you know how much power is in one goddamn exlpoding sun? if sentry had the power of a million he would be freaking abstract level

That would be 10^50 watts: 100 trillion trillion trillion terawatts

http://www.phy.syr.edu/courses/modules/ENERGY/ENERGY_POLICY/tables.html
("Rough Values of the Energies of Various Occurrences"😉 🤓

well ther you have it then, so by hyperbole sentry is stronger than superman😄

Originally posted by Grimm22
The day that some jerk with a blond mullet and a huge blue belt stalemates Galactus is the day I stop reading comics

Define a mullet, as Thor has stalemated Galactus and he has a simillar hairstyle and colour to Sentry.

I think Sentry is Far stronger than Superman because he's class 100 and Wonder Woman is class 90 nad shes as strong as Superman.

Originally posted by roughrider
Having your molecules existing a second ahead of real time - just how is that supposed to give him all this power?
Such quasi-science wouldn't stand up to scrutiny in the Ultimate Universe. Ultimate Sentry would need a very different origin.

Another really clever guy explained this in another thread; it actually comply's with theoretical science.

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
It works on the basis time temporal energy absorption. Stephen Hawking created this paradox that involved two worm holes at two separate points in time. If the wormholes are moving, (as Sentry's molecules are) they provide the photons, he absorbs with a tiny bit of energy each time they pass through the separate wormholes. As the energy loops round from two separate points in time , the photons Blue shifts to a near infinite levels. Due to his expanded consciousness, he also has vast psionic abilities which allow him to literally control this infinite level of energy and provide him with his Super strength, durability and speed.

Originally posted by General Mess
I think Sentry is Far stronger than Superman because he's class 100 and Wonder Woman is class 90 nad shes as strong as Superman.
ok umm no... marvel's rating system is way different from DC, and its quite a known thning that DC's characters base power levels are more elevated than marvel's....Wizard might have listed WW at 90tons but they also listed Ultimate Hulk at 13 tons..so dont pay any attention to them....like...seriously 😉 (check JLA:Trial BY fire...and see WW lending 1/3 the force necessary to move the moon out of orbit)

Superman is stronger until further notice...why cuz sentry hasnt had any out of this world strentgh feat to date..well...other than holding the sharp ends of wolverine's claws and not getting cut by them😬

Originally posted by manjaro
ok umm no... marvel's rating system is way different from DC, and its quite a known thning that DC's characters base power levels are more elevated than marvel's....Wizard might have listed WW at 90tons but they also listed Ultimate Hulk at 13 tons..so dont pay any attention to them....like...seriously 😉 (check JLA:Trial BY fire...and see WW lending 1/3 the force necessary to move the moon out of orbit)

Superman is stronger until further notice...why cuz sentry hasnt had any out of this world strentgh feat to date..well...other than holding the sharp ends of wolverine's claws and not getting cut by them😬

Well the Midguard Seprpent is the size of earth and Thor can only lift 100 tons, so the Earth can't weigh more than 200 tons, at the most. 🙂

Originally posted by General Mess
Well the Midguard Seprpent is the size of earth and Thor can only lift 100 tons, so the Earth can't weigh more than 200 tons, at the most. 🙂

Actually Thor is class 100 meaning he can lift in excess of 100 tons.
Second, in marvel it is not know how much the midgard serpent weighs.
Third, Thor (in Marvel) only lifted the A Section of Jormungand (as World Serpent). Only in Norse Mythology (not Marvel) did Thor fish Jormungand out of the water. But it is also mentioned that this happened before it grew to wrap itself around the world (now becoming the World Serpent) or a little while after Odin cast (threw) him there. So it was a much smaller serpent when Thor fished him out.

Supes

Originally posted by General Mess
Well the Midguard Seprpent is the size of earth and Thor can only lift 100 tons, so the Earth can't weigh more than 200 tons, at the most. 🙂

Wow. Typical DC fan trying to limit a character with a lot of strength in Marvel by saying "he's class 100, so he can only lift 100 tons"

Bullshits. Marvel Handbooks are crap. They're about as accurate as a blindfolded retard trying to assasinate John F. Kennedy with a sniper rifle.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Wow. Typical DC fan trying to limit a character with a lot of strength in Marvel by saying "he's class 100, so he can only lift 100 tons"

Bullshits. Marvel Handbooks are crap. They're about as accurate as a blindfolded retard trying to assasinate John F. Kennedy with a sniper rifle.

Handbooks (by Marvel) are very accurate (not 100% though). Anyway he didn't understand that class 100 means able to lift in excess of 100tons (and not 100tons).
The handbook makes this clear.