Re: Mace Windu vs. Yoda
Originally posted by hulk10
Yoda is very powerful but if you look back to Star Wars movie 2 Anikin says''as wise as Yoda and as powerful as master Windu'',my point he said that Windu is more powerful and I agree. 😱
Or Anakin could be saying that Obi-Wan isn't as powerful as Yoda but is as powerful as Mace.
Anakin didn't say Mace > Yoda, he only said Kenobi was as powerful as Windu, which obviously isn't true. It's hard to say who's stronger, though I suspect that Yoda would win. Saber skills are equal, I'd say, but if I had to pick one of them I'd say Mace. Force, though, is Yoda for sure. Mace is probably better against Sith/Dark Jedi than Yoda is because of Vaapad but between the two Yoda'd likely win. Oh, and this has been done about a hundred (exaggeration) times, too.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Anakin didn't say Mace > Yoda, he only said Kenobi was as powerful as Windu, which obviously isn't true. It's hard to say who's stronger, though I suspect that Yoda would win. Saber skills are equal, I'd say, but if I had to pick one of them I'd say Mace. Force, though, is Yoda for sure. Mace is probably better against Sith/Dark Jedi than Yoda is because of Vaapad but between the two Yoda'd likely win. Oh, and this has been done about a hundred (exaggeration) times, too.
I just want to know, where is it stated that Vapaad is good against dark siders?
Oh and haven't Mace already acknowledged Yoda as the superior swordsman as well? I'd put Yoda there for sure, I mean, dodging the strikes of 3 jedi masters at once without a saber, knowing every style, perfecting every style and being much more experienced in a sword fight would put him above Mace! Mace has neither speed nor strenght advantage in the duel, and someone can grow really tired by missing alot of strikes, which he undoubtedly will against Yoda!
Originally posted by The Planet
He was exaggerating, and he only said 'as powerful as Master Windu' because Mace is more renowned for his martial ability, whereas Yoda is more renowned for his wisdom, and that's why he said 'as wise as Yoda'. Doesn't mean that he believed that Yoda isn't as powerful as Mace Windu.
Agreed.
Ok, guys this is retarded. Mace isn't beating Yoda. By his own admission (twice in the same book) he isn't as powerful as Yoda. He might (and I stress might) be as good as Yoda in saber combat, but force wise its not even close. Mace wont win. Hell Dooku may be more powerful in a pure force battle then Mace is, and look how Yoda pwned Dooku. A saber fight would be close, but as soon as you get into force prowess, Mace is out of his league.
Even in a saber fight they wouldn't be equal. Yoda is better than Mace. It's stated in Mace's biography on the Official Star Wars Website. As I've said multiple times before, however, this is may or may not be after Mace created Vaapad.
In AOTC, Dooku and Yoda were equals. Dooku said, "It is obvious that this contest can not be decided in our skills with the Force." I haven't read Dark Rendezvous, but from what I've heard from other people here, Yoda beat Dooku pretty badly in terms of the Force.
Originally posted by Council#13
Even in a saber fight they wouldn't be equal. Yoda is better than Mace. It's stated in Mace's biography on the Official Star Wars Website. As I've said multiple times before, however, this is may or may not be after Mace created Vaapad.In AOTC, Dooku and Yoda were equals. Dooku said, "It is obvious that this contest can not be decided in our skills with the Force." I haven't read Dark Rendezvous, but from what I've heard from other people here, Yoda beat Dooku pretty badly in terms of the Force.
Actually they were not "equals" in AOTC at all. Dooku threw everything he could muster at Yoda and Yoda basically shrugged it off. Yoda took no offensive at all (save for reflecting Dooku's lightning back at him) it was all defensive. Dooku was just completely unable to best Yoda in the force and realised that HE was getting nowhere fast so he went to his stronger point, saber dueling, which again he realised wouldn't win if the fight continued any further so he ran away. Dooku just straight up lost to Yoda.