I vote wolverine, the reason why is, venom and carnage hate each other and they begin to fight while wolverine and spiderman fight. I have seen spiderman get taken down by wolverine so easily to many times and I see the same thing happening again. Can you all stop using the spidersense thing, it seems not to work when he's fighting against the vulture or when he's fighting hammer head, or when hes fighting rhino or kraven or even the hulk. They seem to get good licks off of spiderman very easily and wolverine is more agile and might have all of them in the speed dept, I think he hits spiderman with ease like he always does. I admit the truth spiderman is faster than wolverine, so is beast, so is nightcrawler, so is puck, vindicator, gorgon was faster than him and he was a telepath at that, quicksilver, iron man (during the infinite gauntlet him and wolverine fought during the meeting of taking down thanos). All of these people seem to be faster than wolverine but he tags all of them on a regular basis. Youre also right spiderman is stronger than wolverine but there have been lots of people that wolverine have fought that was stronger than him and he took them out with ease. I can see wolverine winning this fight. Also since people wants to say that marvel knights was crap let me bring this up. If anyone read new avengers #6 or 7 the one where spiderwomen makes wolverine stab himself at the end of the book a guy wrote to marvel asking them not to make spiderman look weak with the other heros, the writer simply states "besides spiderwomen, spiderman is the weakest on the team. If I had to choose to fight anyone on the team, I would choose spiderman." He was like " look who's on the team with him captain america, wolverine, iron man. Theres going to be times where spiderman will look the weakest." With them words said from a marvel comic writer, spiderman seems to be the weak link in this fight.
Is this fight a out of the ring fight and you lose because if it aint and wolverine is kicked out of the arena then thats all he would have to do is climb back up. Did you see the civil war book where wolverine was captured by sentry and he jumped out of the s.h.i.e.l.d ship that was cloud level and he didnt suffer any injuries and he was also pushed out of a 35 storied building on his head and bounced back up.
Originally posted by carver9
Is this fight a out of the ring fight and you lose because if it aint and wolverine is kicked out of the arena then thats all he would have to do is climb back up. Did you see the civil war book where wolverine was captured by sentry and he jumped out of the s.h.i.e.l.d ship that was cloud level and he didnt suffer any injuries and he was also pushed out of a 35 storied building on his head and bounced back up.
sounds like you and the writer of that story need to lay off the kool-aid
Originally posted by carver9You have a bad habit of using only low Spider-man showings and only high Wolverine showings. Spider-man "defeated" Wolverine as often as Wolverine "defeated" Spider-man but this were non-fights and Spider-man many times proved that when he needs to dodge deadly attacks, he will dodge them with ease, even if his opponent is faster than Wolverine (Carnage for example)
Is this fight a out of the ring fight and you lose because if it aint and wolverine is kicked out of the arena then thats all he would have to do is climb back up. Did you see the civil war book where wolverine was captured by sentry and he jumped out of the s.h.i.e.l.d ship that was cloud level and he didnt suffer any injuries and he was also pushed out of a 35 storied building on his head and bounced back up.
Originally posted by Sam Z
You have a bad habit of using only low Spider-man showings and only high Wolverine showings. Spider-man "defeated" Wolverine as often as Wolverine "defeated" Spider-man but this were non-fights and Spider-man many times proved that when he needs to dodge deadly attacks, he will dodge them with ease, even if his opponent is faster than Wolverine (Carnage for example)
Well he needed his speed when he fought morlun because he got the hell beaten out of him and it was quite easily.
Originally posted by carver9
Well he needed his speed when he fought morlun because he got the hell beaten out of him and it was quite easily.
What other guys said.
Besides, what Morlun has to do with this fight? I'm talking about low and high showings. Spider-man is capable of dodging charachers that are faster than Logan with ease. It's a fact. So you can't say that he'll get stabbed just because he was hit in the past by someone.
Originally posted by Jyppe
Where does they state that Venom's strenght is bigger because he's merged entirely? Besides, The symbiote had been removed a couple of times after that whole merge which happened in POS
As far as I know symbiote's strength depends on how well they are bonded to the host. And you're right, they were seperated after POS, it seemed that writers forgot about those issues, but Brock's bonding is clearly better. There are lots of books that show that. In the "Hunger" Brock was even able to sense where symbiote was and SEE what he was doing after symbiote left him.
Originally posted by Sam Z
As far as I know symbiote's strength depends on how well they are bonded to the host. And you're right, they were seperated after POS, it seemed that writers forgot about those issues, but Brock's bonding is clearly better. There are lots of books that show that. In the "Hunger" Brock was even able to sense where symbiote was and SEE what he was doing after symbiote left him.
He did that in Separation Anxiety as well.
Spiderman isnt flash, hes not even quicksilver. Spiderman has been hit by kingpin before and almost got bear hugged to death, is king pin faster or more agile than wolverine, NO. You all just give spiderman to much credit when in actuality besides in the strength dept he aint nothing but daredevil. Spiderman is a great character but he will get owned everytime by wolverine if they got into a fight, wolverine is just to experienced and the guy trains everyday of his life. I can see captain america beating spiderman, daredevil beating spiderman, iron fist beating spiderman, black panther beating spiderman because they just have to much experience under there belts.
Originally posted by carver9
Spiderman isnt flash, hes not even quicksilver. Spiderman has been hit by kingpin before and almost got bear hugged to death, is king pin faster or more agile than wolverine, NO. You all just give spiderman to much credit when in actuality besides in the strength dept he aint nothing but daredevil. Spiderman is a great character but he will get owned everytime by wolverine if they got into a fight, wolverine is just to experienced and the guy trains everyday of his life. I can see captain america beating spiderman, daredevil beating spiderman, iron fist beating spiderman, black panther beating spiderman because they just have to much experience under there belts.
I'm gonna be honest about something. Your logic blows. Experience is not equal to power. You can train all day to beat an opponent and won't pull it off. Also, Spider-Man has caught Quicksilver and dodged his blows, so his reflexes are above what most can hit. He's also dodged shots from Silver Surfer and Firelord, both of which can operate at light speed. Same goes for Thor, Iron Man, and so forth. So what if he has a couple of low feats? That's not a reason to discard the high ones. You wanna bring in low feats, then how about Wolverine getting punked out by an Elk, or being completely defenseless against Wonder-Man? Where was his experience then? Where was his experience when he was completely unable to dodge a punch from Spider-Man when he was asking for a fight?
Wolverine is not winning this Battle Royale, so you can shut your mouth.
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Wolverine is not winning this Battle Royale, so you can shut your mouth.
I agree with that statement, on the Statue of Liberty he would almost be a non-factor and could/would just be treated like a bouncy ball I suppose.
I'm going with Spiderman for the win mostly due to his updates in stats and abilities!