Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistI don't think he reached his full power.(yes even after taken all of those powers) Jimmy-Chan and Desaad have even said so themselfs and they are the most credible New Gods advocates you can find.
If memory serves me right... wasn't DS powered up in GDS as well? Even if it's somewhat canon... 😬
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomPerhaps that is right. I'll need to re-read it.
I don't think he reached his full power.(yes even after taken all of those powers) Jimmy-Chan and Desaad have even said so themselfs and they are the most credible New Gods advocates you can find.
However, Young DS might only be stronger than GDS DS because of his power waning. 😬
Because GDS DS would annihilate quite a bit of people that he now loses against, or has trouble with. GDS has seemingly better feats than Young one... by a bit IMO.
And if GDS is the one we're using, then he'd most likely annihilate Odin. Meh.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistWell the only person who really beats Darkseid is Superman(whose a big whore btw😒). And it's really not fair to say that current Ds isn't as powerful as old Ds, because outside of his shitty showings, I don't think we've seen his full potential. But meh, whatever. 🙂
Perhaps that is right. I'll need to re-read it.However, Young DS might only be stronger than GDS DS because of his power waning. 😬
Because GDS DS would annihilate quite a bit of people that he now loses against, or has trouble with. GDS has seemingly better feats than Young one... by a bit IMO.
And if GDS is the one we're using, then he'd most likely annihilate Odin. Meh.
Well DS at his full size he destroyes planets via residual energy, not to mention powergirl even admits JLA and JSA combined are not enought to take down DS. He has slamed supes several times and often times has had many chances to kill him. but for story related reasons chose agaisnt it. Plus he inflicted pain onto the source wall, I get the feeling Odin will have his hands full.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Well DS at his full size he destroyes planets via residual energy, not to mention powergirl even admits JLA and JSA combined are not enought to take down DS. He has slamed supes several times and often times has had many chances to kill him. but for story related reasons chose agaisnt it. Plus he inflicted pain onto the source wall, I get the feeling Odin will have his hands full.
Come with us quietly, Galen. Don't argue or make a scene. Because if you say anything more about Darkseid being Skyfather or beating Odin, we're gonna be forced to take you to a mental hospital. You don't want that, do you?
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomSo... because we may or may not have seen him at full potential, it's not fair to say GDS DS is more powerful than current?
Well the only person who really beats Darkseid is Superman(whose a big whore btw😒). And it's really not fair to say that current Ds isn't as powerful as old Ds, because outside of his shitty showings, I don't think we've seen his full potential. But meh, whatever. 🙂
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomIt Digimark ruled it wasnt canon. We are on kmc here.
No the stories canon, it was just a future arc. Plus it had pre-crisis Superboy and Supergirl from the normal Dc continuity. Unless people want to dispute that every Legion of Superhero story would be non-canon themselfs(which is just ridiculous) then no. Just to let know pc stuff is going to be canon again. Or something like that.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomThe one where Batman knocked the staff out of Darkseid's hands and then Superman scared him off. Really bad showing for Darkseid.
You mean the one where Superman hit him from behind and the he ran away due to the planet being pulled in by the Source? Cause technically that wasn't a defeat on Darkseid's behalf. Plus those two showings I mentioned are more recent. 🙂
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomYou cant not count his shitty showings. 😛
Well the only person who really beats Darkseid is Superman(whose a big whore btw😒). And it's really not fair to say that current Ds isn't as powerful as old Ds, because outside of his shitty showings, I don't think we've seen his full potential. But meh, whatever. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112The logic and reasoning behind this is horrific. Non-canon means it never happened period! Or it was a completely different setting altogether(like an elsworlds tale). I hope you don't think that the Legions of superheroes stories are non-canon aswell. You don't even realize that the term your using is inaccurate. But you did steal this from someone else so what should I expect. 🙂
It is a futuristic story that isnt canon to his character.
The one where Batman knocked the staff out of Darkseid's hands and then Superman scared him off. Really bad showing for Darkseid.Lulz, I love how you deliberately ignore the context I provided and resort to repeating the same thing over and over again. It makes you look pitiful and desperate rather than professional and reasonable.😆 Go a head ignore as much context as you want, because by doing so your only weakening your argument rather than strengthening it. 🙂
It Digimark ruled it wasnt canon. We are on kmc here.Digmarks decision was influenced by another poster when he returned to moderate the forum again(He didn't even stay that long). Declaring that storyline "non-canon" for the simple reason that you can, doesn't really bond well with logical thinking.😬
And it's so ironic how far you'll go to demean Darkseid, when your favorite character is inspired by him. Rather than putting him down, I would be kissing his ass, because if it weren't for Darkseid your boy Thanos probally wouldn't exist. I don't see why your so obsessed with criticizing Ds. Perhaps your Jim Starlin's offspring......
Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
And it's so ironic how far you'll go to demean Darkseid, when your favorite character is inspired by him. Rather than putting him down, I would be kissing his ass, because if it weren't for Darkseid your boy Thanos probally wouldn't exist. I don't see why your so obsessed with criticizing Ds. Perhaps your Jim Starlin's offspring......
Whats with that myth?
No it was Metron, not Darkseid who was the model for Thanos.
Starlin went on record about that, also, the earliest pictures of Thanos had him faaaar more slight in shape, more like Iron Man, who was his opponent back then. Roy Thomas however suggested that Starlin make Thanos bulkier.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231Actually from what I heard, Thanos started out as Merton homage, but over time was given a Darkseid like role. That would still make him a rip off would it not?
Whats with that myth?
No it was Metron, not Darkseid who was the model for Thanos.Starlin went on record about that, also, the earliest pictures of Thanos had him faaaar more slight in shape, more like Iron Man, who was his opponent back then. Roy Thomas however suggested that Starlin make Thanos bulkier.
Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Actually from what I heard, Thanos started out as Merton homage, but over time was given a Darkseid like role. That would still make him a rip off would it not?
Yes and no.
Thanos is nothing like Darkseid at heart. Widely different goal, personality and cunning.
The only thing similar between the two is that they both have fireplug bodies with an impossible musculature, a beetling brow, and a case of uglies only matched by their megalomania. Starlin did create two other characters who were just like that; Mongul and someone called Lord Papal.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231Very true indeed. But you got to admit, if Darkseid where not concieved then Thanos probally wouldn't be as interesting as he is today....oh wait, he's dead....anyway he owes as much to Darkseid as say, Batman owes to the Shadow. Not a "blatant" ripoff, but you can see where the two resemble, and how one draws inspiration from the other.
Yes and no.Thanos is nothing like Darkseid at heart. Widely different goal, personality and cunning.
The only thing similar between the two is that they both have fireplug bodies with an impossible musculature, a beetling brow, and a case of uglies only matched by their megalomania. Starlin did create two other characters who were just like that; Mongul and someone called Lord Papal.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomHere we go again. Another Darkseid fan vehemently battles for gds to be considered gds to be considered canon to current Darkseid. Whether its canon or not you are missing the point. Events took place that havent occurred yet. He stole beings powers and this altered his own powerset. It hasnt occurred yet to credit Darkseid with this feat is absurd and fanboyish. 😄
The logic and reasoning behind this is horrific. Non-canon means it never happened period! Or it was a completely different setting altogether(like an elsworlds tale). I hope you don't think that the Legions of superheroes stories are non-canon aswell. You don't even realize that the term your using is inaccurate. But you did steal this from someone else so what should I expect. 🙂Lulz, I love how you deliberately ignore the context I provided and resort to repeating the same thing over and over again. It makes you look pitiful and desperate rather than professional and reasonable.😆 Go a head ignore as much context as you want, because by doing so your only weakening your argument rather than strengthening it. 🙂
Digmarks decision was influenced by another poster when he returned to moderate the forum again(He didn't even stay that long). Declaring that storyline "non-canon" for the simple reason that you can, doesn't really bond well with logical thinking.😬And it's so ironic how far you'll go to demean Darkseid, when your favorite character is inspired by him. Rather than putting him down, I would be kissing his ass, because if it weren't for Darkseid your boy Thanos probally wouldn't exist. I don't see why your so obsessed with criticizing Ds. Perhaps your Jim Starlin's offspring......
Digimark's decision was his own and as a poster I dont think he would let anyone influence his decision. You obviously think he can be easily persuaded.
With regards to Thanos being dreamt up with Darkseid in mind. Who cares. Darkseid came first but he hasnt evolved as a character one bit. He is so utterly boring and just sits on his throne pissing and moaning about the same shit while failing at practically everything he set out to do in the first place.
He is laughable now and is pathetic to put it best. He is mocked on every internet forum and referred to as Jobberseid because hes such a far cry from the Darkseid from precrisis days. Get over it. He is washed up and has recently been bloodied by the likes of Batman. The gobots were created before the transformers but uhm the transformers were about ten times as cool. Same thing happened here as Darkseid came first while Thanos came later and was much better and more successful as a character with less forces backing him. 🙂
Oh and Jim Starlin the guy who created Thanos is the guy waxing the new gods. 🙂 Man, how I love irony. 🙂
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomThanos has been dead twice but accomplished more than Darkseid ever did. Darkseid was created first and accomplished far less in a longer span of time. Kind of makes you think doesnt it?
Very true indeed. But you got to admit, if Darkseid where not concieved then Thanos probally wouldn't be as interesting as he is today....oh wait, he's dead....anyway he owes as much to Darkseid as say, Batman owes to the Shadow. Not a "blatant" ripoff, but you can see where the two resemble, and how one draws inspiration from the other.