8th Day Juggernaut runs a gauntlet of heroes

Started by Stupid Rookie3 pages
Originally posted by boriquaking55
Was that Trion? Hell, even Cytorrak shouldn't be punching through dimensional walls - Elder god's are powerful but that's just ridiculous

Agreed, that is such crap. And whoever it was that was saying Cyt is multiversal is an idiot.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Agreed, that is such crap. And whoever it was that was saying Cyt is multiversal is an idiot.
How does punching through walls of reality make you multiversal?

He was probably just making his way into the Trion's realm, not smashing through the Ultimate universe or anything. "Smashing into another dimension" just sounds more cool though.

And really, if he had the full power of Cyttorak, like some people like to say, he probably would of just teleported into the Trion's realm.

Originally posted by Kutulu
I don't think it's PIS at all. Cytorrak is a multiversal entity, with regular Juggernaut at 10 % of the power of the crystal and withstanding god blasts, 8th day was considered to be around 80 % and Trion Juggernaut considered 100 % (that's when he gets to be 80 feet tall). Regular Juggernaut could withstand the godblast to little effect, just getting pushed back and not injured, wouldn't it make sense if Juggernaut was amped up that much to be a whole lot stronger?

The 8th day storyline is one of my favorites btw 💃


Where did you get those percents?

And keep in mind that Thor was ill when he godblasted Juggernaut. It was supposed to of affected his lifeforce, the power he channels into the godforce.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Cyttorak was able to hold Galactus in his own dimension with the Crimson Bands.
I think a skyfather level character should be able to do that.

When?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Cyttorak was able to hold Galactus in his own dimension with the Crimson Bands.
I think a skyfather level character should be able to do that.

Yeah and on the flip side Juggernaut ripped the jewel from Cyttorak's head in his own realm, I mean take from it what you will but that's a load of PIS.

Besides Cyttorak is an Elder God which is above Skyfather, kinda like how Gaia is an Elder God and Odin is merely Skyfather.

Anyway 8th day will get stopped either at Thor and Hulk or Professor X and Superman.

Originally posted by Soleran
Yeah and on the flip side Juggernaut ripped the jewel from Cyttorak's head in his own realm, I mean take from it what you will but that's a load of PIS.

Besides Cyttorak is an Elder God which is above Skyfather, kinda like how Gaia is an Elder God and Odin is merely Skyfather.

It's classic PIS man -- first we have Galactus jobbing to an Elder god, then that garbage.

Sometimes I wonder whether X-writers deliberately try to insult the intelligence of their readers.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

When?

Dr Strange Sorcerer Supreme Issue 44

Originally posted by Soleran

Anyway 8th day will get stopped either at Thor and Hulk or Professor X and Superman.

If Thor goes in h2h against Juggernaut he looses terribly if he plays it smart then it is an easy win for him

Originally posted by juggernaut66666

If Thor goes in h2h against Juggernaut he looses terribly if he plays it smart then it is an easy win for him

Lol well actually I only gave Thor the win because Hulk can help him in H2H, I was thinking Thor would have to be using the "hammer containment field" like he used on Juggs previously to weaken his connection to Cyttorak🙂

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Agreed, that is such crap. And whoever it was that was saying Cyt is multiversal is an idiot.

Cytorrak is accessible in any universe throughout the multiverse to be called upon for mystic reasons. Therefore he is multiversal, the same as some of the other entities that Dr. Strange calls upon. Even Living Tribunal has used Cytorrak's power in the past when he was testing Dr. Strange.

There is only one idiot here - and that idiot is you, "Stupid Rookie". 😆 🤣 😱

Let me clarify Multiversal some more - by multiversal, I mean that he is a force who can be present throughout any universe within the multiverse and any dimension. Agamotto is the same way, as an example. Just because a being is multiversal, doesn't put them on par with Living Tribunal. There are a ton of multiversal beings within Marvel, Living Tribunal is at the very top of that right underneath TOAA.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Cytorrak is accessible in any universe throughout the multiverse to be called upon for mystic reasons. Therefore he is multiversal, the same as some of the other entities that Dr. Strange calls upon. Even Living Tribunal has used Cytorrak's power in the past when he was testing Dr. Strange.

There is only one idiot here - and that idiot is you, "Stupid Rookie". 😆 🤣 😱

Let me clarify Multiversal some more - by multiversal, I mean that he is a force who can be present throughout any universe within the multiverse and any dimension. Agamotto is the same way, as an example. Just because a being is multiversal, doesn't put them on par with Living Tribunal. There are a ton of multiversal beings within Marvel, Living Tribunal is at the very top of that right underneath TOAA.


Has anyone in the Ultimates summoned Cyttorak's power?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Dr Strange Sorcerer Supreme Issue 44

I can't seem to find anything stating Galactus was even in that issue or series, but I have heard multiple times that Doctor Strange has held him in the bands which isn't that surprising. Galactus seems to have a confirmed problem against magic and Strange basically does whatever he wants. Even in the wiki it says he doesn't really follow any kind of rules and it claims to have a quote of Joe Quesada saying Strange is a plot device.

😕

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

And really, if he had the full power of Cyttorak, like some people like to say, he probably would of just teleported into the Trion's realm.

It wasn't the full power of Cytorrak, it was the full power of the Cytorrak crystal, an artifact.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Cytorrak is accessible in any universe throughout the multiverse to be called upon for mystic reasons. Therefore he is multiversal, the same as some of the other entities that Dr. Strange calls upon. Even Living Tribunal has used Cytorrak's power in the past when he was testing Dr. Strange.

There is only one idiot here - and that idiot is you, "Stupid Rookie". 😆 🤣 😱

Let me clarify Multiversal some more - by multiversal, I mean that he is a force who can be present throughout any universe within the multiverse and any dimension. Agamotto is the same way, as an example. Just because a being is multiversal, doesn't put them on par with Living Tribunal. There are a ton of multiversal beings within Marvel, Living Tribunal is at the very top of that right underneath TOAA.

Do you have proof cytorraks multiversal apart from stating that his powers can be summoned from other universes, i am sure Thors capable of a god blast in other univeres as well does that make the odin force Multiversal?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
That is not 8th day Juggernaut.

What is it then? That's not Triton (yet)? I mean Triton was like 80ft tall.

Originally posted by Kutulu
It wasn't the full power of Cytorrak, it was the full power of the Cytorrak crystal, an artifact.

Oh, an artifact? I know what the ruby is. But the point remains that there's no evidence of what percent Juggernaut has of anything.

Originally posted by Supreme being
Do you have proof cytorraks multiversal apart from stating that his powers can be summoned from other universes, i am sure Thors capable of a god blast in other univeres as well does that make the odin force Multiversal?

There are a bunch of multiversal entities in Marvel, Thor / Odin are different as they are pantheon level gods, not elder gods like Set, Cthon, etc..

Multiversal beings just imply that they exist across time and space in multiple realities and universes across the multiverse / omniverse.

Higher order Multiversal entities:
Multi-Eternity
Multi-Infinity
Multi-Death
Phoenix Force
Infiniti/IG
Nemesis (Not sure if she's the same being as the Infiniti being but they seem highly different)
Genesis (Sise-Neg)

Second tier multiversal entities:
Abysss
Phoenix of the White Crown
The Sword in the Star
The Legion or "Prime Evil" (All the demons merged as one entity before they split into different demon lords and dimensions throughout the multiverse)
The Darkness
G-Force
Nth Man
The Void
Korvac (Power of Six Abstracts from What if?)

Third Tier multiversal entities, that would be on par with Cytorrak:
Entropy
Epiphany
Enmity
Empathy
Expediency
Eulogy

Eon
Epoch
Valka
Abraxas
The Unbeing
Origin
The Goblin Entity
The Trion
Those Who Sit Above in Shadow
The Vishanti
Raggadoor
Cinnibus
Mephisto
Satannish
Nightmare
Shuma-Gorath
Denak
Tiboro
Hell-Eyes
Llan
Arioch
Dormammu
The Adversary
Inanna
The Darkforce Dimension
The Dragon of the Moon
The Eldritch Elemental Archenemy
Time Twisters
Time Keepers
Maya of Sword in the Star
Great One

Originally posted by Kutulu
There are a bunch of multiversal entities in Marvel, Thor / Odin are different as they are pantheon level gods, not elder gods like Set, Cthon, etc..

Multiversal beings just imply that they exist across time and space in multiple realities and universes across the multiverse / omniverse.

Higher order Multiversal entities:
Multi-Eternity
Multi-Infinity
Multi-Death
Phoenix Force
Infiniti/IG
Nemesis (Not sure if she's the same being as the Infiniti being but they seem highly different)
Genesis (Sise-Neg)

Second tier multiversal entities:
Abysss
Phoenix of the White Crown
The Sword in the Star
The Legion or "Prime Evil" (All the demons merged as one entity before they split into different demon lords and dimensions throughout the multiverse)
The Darkness
G-Force
Nth Man
The Void
Korvac (Power of Six Abstracts from What if?)

Third Tier multiversal entities, that would be on par with Cytorrak:
Entropy
Epiphany
Enmity
Empathy
Expediency
Eulogy

Eon
Epoch
Valka
Abraxas
The Unbeing
Origin
The Goblin Entity
The Trion
Those Who Sit Above in Shadow
The Vishanti
Raggadoor
Cinnibus
Mephisto
Satannish
Nightmare
Shuma-Gorath
Denak
Tiboro
Hell-Eyes
Llan
Arioch
Dormammu
The Adversary
Inanna
The Darkforce Dimension
The Dragon of the Moon
The Eldritch Elemental Archenemy
Time Twisters
Time Keepers
Maya of Sword in the Star
Great One

lol @ Abraxas on your list

The majority of your so-called multiversal entities don't have powers in other universes. They rule pocket dimensions within 616.

Are you sure you know what multiversal means?

Who cares about multiversal blah blah blah's for this fight how is Juggs going to fare?

Originally posted by Supreme being
Do you have proof cytorraks multiversal apart from stating that his powers can be summoned from other universes, i am sure Thors capable of a god blast in other univeres as well does that make the odin force Multiversal?

Most alternate universe scenario comics have an alternate version of Juggernaut within them. Hence the Cytorrak crystal, similar to the crown of set, exists in multiple universes. That right there is an indicator of multiversal ability, to top it off, strange has called on the powers of Cytorrak throughout numerous dimensions within the realms of Lord Chaos and Master Order.

Originally posted by boriquaking55
lol @ Abraxas on your list

The majority of your so-called multiversal entities don't have powers in other universes. They rule pocket dimensions within 616.

Are you sure you know what multiversal means?

I already stated what multiversal meant; just because someone isn't a direct threat to the multiverse, doesn't mean that they are not multiversal. A multiversal being can use their powers or have their powers used by minions throughout any of the universes within a multiverse; hence the term multiversal.

Originally posted by boriquaking55
lol @ Abraxas on your list

What is wrong with having Abraxas on the list? He is a prime example of a multiversal entity.