Savage Hulk and Hercules versus Juggernaut and Thing

Started by Ptr_Grifin3 pages
Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Hulk isn't tiring either. Hercules is a god.

Hulk will tire and can be worn out. It has been proven plenty of times. What does Hercules have that Thor doesn't have?

A lot of people dont know nothing about the juggernaut. YOU CANT BEAT HIM PHYSICALLY. His only weakness is telepaths. If you have a juggernaut that is using his power at the full potential then noone could be him. Im referring to the juggernaut that keeps his force field up the entire fight. He could just lay down and let hulk and herc pound on him all day and laugh at there effort but if you have the juggernaut that knows that he dont need the force field because hes still invulnerable, then it would be a better fight but they would still lose. Juggernaut has unlimited strength, he cant lose. If you dont know the juggernaut then read here.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=596

I can't say it any better than that. clap well done. For the record, LP&I both said that as well.

Originally posted by carver9
A lot of people dont know nothing about the juggernaut. YOU CANT BEAT HIM PHYSICALLY. His only weakness is telepaths. If you have a juggernaut that is using his power at the full potential then noone could be him. Im referring to the juggernaut that keeps his force field up the entire fight. He could just lay down and let hulk and herc pound on him all day and laugh at there effort but if you have the juggernaut that knows that he dont need the force field because hes still invulnerable, then it would be a better fight but they would still lose. Juggernaut has unlimited strength, he cant lose. If you dont know the juggernaut then read here.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=596

Every comic book character loses. Hulk/Juggy/Apoc. I agree about Juggy bein tough. So is Hulk and Herc. No more word from Guy222

As others have said, the Juggernaut could take all three simultaneously - he is impervious to the physical damage that these three will be doling out.

BFR is the only option any of them would have, and the Juggernaut can even walk back from BFR. 😬.

The Thing is a non-factor, but Cain solo's them.

Assuming that it's classic Marko, anyways. If it's current, well, then, this is spite in team 1's favor.

You can only slow Juggernaut down, he says it himself when he fights Thunderstrike, no one truly beats him, you can scroe a win over him but he doesn't keep score cause he knows that sooner or later he will free himself and come back.

All the "Wins" that Hero's have over him, are usually where they have tricked him, Spidey and the cement thing springs to mind.

And of course Telepaths are a big problem if you can get his helmet off. No Hercules shouldn't be tiring anytime soon, he is after all a God, he should be able to battle for weeks.

Hulk should be good for a long fight too but both can be KO'd, Juggy in his classic form, can't be KO'd by these two.

Masterbruce needs to give us a ruling on BFR, that is the only way Hulk and Herc can win, BFR Juggy and double team Thing.

No BFR, Juggy wins.

Show me current Juggs at classic levels otherwise it's speculation.

Based on that team 2 loses.

Originally posted by Soleran
Show me current Juggs at classic levels otherwise it's speculation.

Based on that team 2 loses.

Thats why I said Juggs in his classic form, current Juggs and Thing, as has been said is spite against these two.

For the last time, CURRENT HAS THE GEM BACK. And the writers confirmed he will be repowered.

Originally posted by Hercules
Thats why I said Juggs in his classic form, current Juggs and Thing, as has been said is spite against these two.

I wasn't specifically citing your post🙂

Thanks though 😉

For the last time, CURRENT HAS THE GEM BACK. And the writers confirmed he will be repowered.

Ok you said it right there, he WILL be repowered not HE IS REPOWERED.

Team two loses.

Originally posted by Soleran
I wasn't specifically citing your post🙂

Thanks though 😉

I know, I was just agreeing with you. 😄

Originally posted by Soleran
I wasn't specifically citing your post🙂

Thanks though 😉

Ok you said it right there, he WILL be repowered not HE IS REPOWERED.

Team two loses.

Answer this for me, how do team 2 wins because I just cant see it happening. Tell me your story. My story is that juggernaut puts his forcefield up and lay down and let huk and hurc punch on him ALL YEAR LONG and wait until he see a sign of them being tired, gets up and rip both of there heads off. Juggernaut can not lose. He never lose physically, the only way he ever loses is by telepaths. What makes you think that these 2 is going to do the impossible.

Originally posted by carver9
Answer this for me, how do team 2 wins because I just cant see it happening. Tell me your story. My story is that juggernaut puts his forcefield up and lay down and let huk and hurc punch on him ALL YEAR LONG and wait until he see a sign of them being tired, gets up and rip both of there heads off. Juggernaut can not lose. He never lose physically, the only way he ever loses is by telepaths. What makes you think that these 2 is going to do the impossible.

What hes saying is that forum rules, means we use current versions of the character unless otherwise stated, e.g. Classic Juggernaut, Immortal Hercules etc.

So hes saying that if this is current Juggs, who has yet to be repowered currently (although its 99% that he going to be) then he is no longer unstoppable, has no forcfield and isn't as strong.

That would give a major swing in the other teams favour. Again we need a ruling from Masterbruce as to which Juggernaut were talking about as well as BFR.

Juggernaut is one of my last favorite characters in comics. THough not sure, I'm sure I've seen him beat in physical force before. It seems illogical to me. It is ragrdless if the character grows fatigued he can be knocked out and the queston can the Hulk grow angry enough to knowout the juggernaut. Strangly for these two powerhouses on 616 Eart, they have rarely fought. Despite this I'm siding with team 1.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5511467

This would be juggernaut after this fight
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5837079

Truly unstoppable, look at the windows in the back ground
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5946036
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5946048

Originally posted by carver9
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5511467

This would be juggernaut after this fight
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5837079

Truly unstoppable, look at the windows in the back ground
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5946036
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5946048

Yup, there all of "Classic" Juggernaut and nice scans! 😄

However we don't know yet if were talking Classic or not, until Masterbruce who is the OP, says so.

If it is classic then your post about the fight was pretty much spot on! 😉

Originally posted by Hercules
Yup, there all of "Classic" Juggernaut and nice scans! 😄

However we don't know yet if were talking Classic or not, until Masterbruce who is the OP, says so.

If it is classic then your post about the fight was pretty much spot on! 😉

gotcha

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
For the last time, CURRENT HAS THE GEM BACK. And the writers confirmed he will be repowered.

Could you please post a source on that?

Originally posted by Redatom65
Juggernaut is one of my last favorite characters in comics. THough not sure, I'm sure I've seen him beat in physical force before. It seems illogical to me. It is ragrdless if the character grows fatigued he can be knocked out and the queston can the Hulk grow angry enough to knowout the juggernaut. Strangly for these two powerhouses on 616 Eart, they have rarely fought. Despite this I'm siding with team 1.

Juggernaut does not fatigue. He has unlimited Stamina. He has never been physically hurt while at full power except by mystical forces.

Originally posted by Hercules
Yup, there all of "Classic" Juggernaut and nice scans! 😄

However we don't know yet if were talking Classic or not, until Masterbruce who is the OP, says so.

If it is classic then your post about the fight was pretty much spot on! 😉

Thats the point. MB doesn't really need to do that. I believe most people agree that if it were classic then he would not loose, while if it were the current Juggernaut he would lose.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Thats the point. MB doesn't really need to that. I believe most people agree that if it were classic then he would not loose, while if it were the current Juggernaut he would lose.

I agree but until MB does state which one, there is a loophole which invites debate.

If he clears it up then we have no need to keep posting on this thread cause Classic = put a fork in Bruce and Herc, cause their done! 😄

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Could you please post a source on that?

Juggernaut does not fatigue. He has unlimited Stamina. He has never been physically hurt while at full power except by mystical forces.

Thats the point. MB doesn't really need to that. I believe most people agree that if it were classic then he would not loose, while if it were the current Juggernaut he would lose.

agree 💃