X-Team vs Immortal Hercules

Originally posted by masterbruce
maybe, just maybe, and I know this is KMC blasphemy, that the problem is that we severely underestimate Logan's capabilities

I mean, if he is regularly shown to do these high feats, maybe it isn't PIS but rather in character

You think he can stab through Cap's shields?

THIS why we don't like you.

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Originally posted by masterbruce
Cap's shield has been broken before. It's certainly not indestructible.

Neither is adamantium. 😐.

And for the record, Cap's shield is more durable than Adamantium.

Originally posted by Soljer
Neither is adamantium. 😐.

And for the record, Cap's shield is more durable than Adamantium.

Originally posted by Draco69
You think he can stab through Cap's shields?

THIS why we don't like you.

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no I don't. My point is, if Wolverine is constantly doing all this crazy stuff, then maybe he's more powerful than his bios gives him credit for. I mean, why do you not see Spiderman doing this crazy shit even though he's a more popular character?

Originally posted by capt it up
actually it not. it just asborbs damage

.....Yeah.

It is. It's the ONLY thing in comics stated to be more durable than Adamantium.

Originally posted by masterbruce
no I don't. My point is, if Wolverine is constantly doing all this crazy stuff, then maybe he's more powerful than his bios gives him credit for. I mean, why do you not see Spiderman doing this crazy shit even though he's a more popular character?

You...just don't think logically. It's like this mental block in your brain.

Cap's deflected blasts from freaking King Thor with that shield but a simple punch from Wolverine goes right through it....

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Originally posted by Draco69
You...just don't think logically. It's like this mental block in your brain.

Cap's deflected blasts from freaking King Thor with that shield but a simple punch from Wolverine goes right through it....

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no, I agree that wolverine breaking Cap's shield is complete bullshit. But I think KMC needs to give Wolverine an upgrade, I mean on here he loses to Spiderman for god's sake. We need to find a center ground where he isn't as uber as some comics may portray him nor as pathetic as ppl here like to think. It's weird that on KMC you're instantly bashed for supporting wolverine and it seems popular to bash him.

Originally posted by Soljer
Beating MAGNETO, INVISIBLE WOMAN, and DOC STRANGE?!

I don't know about Strange since it happened off panel but the deaths of Magneto and Invisible Woman weren't a big stretch. Wolverine got the drop on Sue who, as per Captain America's orders, wasn't prepared to use lethal force... so Wolverine killed her pretty quickly. Magneto decided to deviate from Cap's plan and took control of Wolverine's body and was about to pull an adamantium removal before Wolverine teleported directly behind him and stabbed him. They work fine in the context of the story.

Originally posted by Soljer
.....Yeah.

It is. It's the ONLY thing in comics stated to be more durable than Adamantium.

Durability wise Adamantium and Cap's shield are equal BUT Cap's shield absorbs mechanical energy making it much more valuable in combat. If they could be broken with brute strength there wouldn't be that much of a disparity between the durability of Adamantium and that of Cap's shield... but nothing short of matter manipulation has proved very sucessful in either case.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Durability wise Adamantium and Cap's shield are equal BUT Cap's shield absorbs mechanical energy making it much more valuable in combat. If they could be broken with brute strength there wouldn't be that much of a disparity between the durability of Adamantium and that of Cap's shield... but nothing short of matter manipulation has proved very sucessful in either case.

hercules skin is harder than diamond and titanium(spelling) even as mortal there is no way wolverine bone claws are going to get through it. plus immortal hercules have nigh invulnerability to physical attack.

Originally posted by bigbran
Well... King Thor, and Thanos (Power Gem) broke his shield.
I think Ba'al (completely forget who) snapped Wolvie's claws.
King Thor also bent the shit out of adamantium.

ba'al never snapped logans claws

it was s'ym i think, or one of those random limbo demons. one of them did, i remember that much. wait...it wasn't ogun, was it?

Originally posted by manorastroman
it was s'ym i think, or one of those random limbo demons. one of them did, i remember that much. wait...it wasn't ogun, was it?

Why would the Invisible Woman need to use lethal force to incapacitate Wolverine?

Because he eats thunder and craps lightning.He's a wrecking machine!

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Because he eats thunder and craps lightning.He's a wrecking machine!

The funny part is that you cant even tell how Logan won, nothing was show. As far as we know, Hulk showed up and cheap shot him.

It much as credible as Herc beating Magneto off panel with no indication on how he pulled it off. In the same Mag where the BW beat Wonderman on her own.

The X-team takes it tho. Havoc, Cyclops tactics, Phoenix, Colossus can hang for some time, Wolverine can be a pain if he has the adamantium, etc.

You know what is the biggest irony? Is that in Enemy of the State, Wolverine is said to not even be close to be the biggest threat of the MU; Elektra mentions people like The Hulk, The Thing, Cyclops or even Cap. America as more dangerous, and Fury locks up everyone which is not in street-level, because they can be much more dangerous if they are caught...

...and yet Wolverine kills the entire Marvel Universe, so The Hand must be pretty good. If they got hold of the Human Torch, he would kill The Living Tribunal on his own 😆

BTW, another example of the stupidity of this What If: if you have, let's say, Tony Stark, why would you use Wolverine? Couldn't you just make him use the armor and kill everybody? Heck, they have DR STRANGE and they still use Wolverine. Seriously, this was done to make Wolverine fanboys brag and Wolverine fans cry.