Originally posted by grey fox
Want some cheese to go with that whine, Tony? 🙄
(1) Peter put his family in danger because you told him to reveal his identity.
(2) How about the U.S. Government or the U.N. making a decision about whether to exile the Hulk instead of your little cabal? (Oh, and Mr. Futurist and big-brained Richards - all that did was make him come back angrier than ever.)
(3) What's up with arresting people like Luke Cage in their homes when the deadline passed? Can't even wait for them to go outside and technically "break the law", Herr Gobbels?
(4) Have you stood trial yet for your illegal actions during the Armour Wars days, when you were silver-and-red? Or does being Mr. Shield means you get a pardon?
Tough noogies, Mr. King-Of-The-World Industrialist. As the song goes, have a drink on me 😛 , shut up, and wait for Thor to come renew your last "conversation." 😄
Originally posted by roughriderPete should heave thought of that when he decided to join the pro-registration side.
Want some cheese to go with that whine, Tony? 🙄(1) Peter put his family in danger because you told him to reveal his identity.
Originally posted by roughriderThe Undoesn't always make the best decisions. Any major power with veto power whom doesn't like the US would probably veto it as alot of time and military effort is wasted on trying to take down the hulk. It weakens the US or wherever hulk happens to be.
(2) How about the U.S. Government or the U.N. making a decision about whether to exile the Hulk instead of your little cabal? (Oh, and Mr. Futurist and big-brained Richards - all that did was make him come back angrier than ever.)
The US government seemed perfectly content to keep throwing money at the problem like they tend to do.
Originally posted by roughriderBreaking the law? Like they made not registering a criminal offense?
(3) What's up with arresting people like Luke Cage in their homes when the deadline passed? Can't even wait for them to go outside and technically "break the law", Herr Gobbels?
Originally posted by roughriderIt means he gets the pardon. Obviously.
(4) Have you stood trial yet for your illegal actions during the Armour Wars days, when you were silver-and-red? Or does being Mr. Shield means you get a pardon?
Originally posted by roughriderOh yeah that'll do alot of good. Poor guy's doing what he thinks is best. And is not actually monstrously evil... cut the guy some slack he doesn't even get to make the rules and still has to answer to ******* superiors whos answer to unregistered teenage superheros is to take them down via force.
Tough noogies, Mr. King-Of-The-World Industrialist. As the song goes, have a drink on me 😛 , shut up, and wait for Thor to come renew your last "conversation." 😄
Originally posted by CreshoskPoor guy's doing what he thinks is best. And is not actually monstrously evil... cut the guy some slack he doesn't even get to make the rules and still has to answer to ******* superiors whos answer to unregistered teenage superheros is to take them down via force.
Yeah well, he's also not above profiting from this whole mess with military contracts, is he? (Can anyone say - Haliburton?)
I would agree, Registration is a good idea in theory - but so is Communism.
The problems just seem to be how to implant it properly, without creating more problems than you solve.
Originally posted by CreshoskThe thing is the UN has much more right than the Illuminati save Blackbolt and Namor to make that decision. they did it even though its not their choice to make.
Pete should heave thought of that when he decided to join the pro-registration side.The Undoesn't always make the best decisions. Any major power with veto power whom doesn't like the US would probably veto it as alot of time and military effort is wasted on trying to take down the hulk. It weakens the US or wherever hulk happens to be.
The US government seemed perfectly content to keep throwing money at the problem like they tend to do.
Breaking the law? Like they made not registering a criminal offense?
It means he gets the pardon. Obviously.
Oh yeah that'll do alot of good. Poor guy's doing what he thinks is best. And is not actually monstrously evil... cut the guy some slack he doesn't even get to make the rules and still has to answer to ******* superiors whos answer to unregistered teenage superheros is to take them down via force.
Originally posted by SuperherovandalToo much political motivations in the UN. Plus they don't really have the resources needed to deal with the problem of the Hulk.
The thing is the UN has much more right than the Illuminati save Blackbolt and Namor to make that decision. they did it even though its not their choice to make.
Who's choice was it to make? The US government was already always trying to kill the hulk, so it was clear they didn't want him around. Even when hulk came back the US government screwed things up by attacking him during the downtime between fights with other heroes.
Originally posted by roughrider
Yeah well, he's also not above profiting from this whole mess with military contracts, is he? (Can anyone say - Haliburton?)
I would agree, Registration is a good idea in theory - but so is Communism.
The problems just seem to be how to implant it properly, without creating more problems than you solve.
I found myself nodding in agreement with this post ✅
Originally posted by Superherovandal
The thing is the UN has much more right than the Illuminati save Blackbolt and Namor to make that decision. they did it even though its not their choice to make.
In our world they would, but the positions of the people in the Illuminati (as well as their lack of political bindings) make them far better suited to make such a decision.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaoshowever its not their right to do so. They should leave it to those who actually have the authority. And considering most of them besides Bolt and Namor live in and are US citizens i wouldn't say they lack political bindings
In our world they would, but the positions of the people in the Illuminati (as well as their lack of political bindings) make them far better suited to make such a decision.
Originally posted by Superherovandal
however its not their right to do so. They should leave it to those who actually have the authority. And considering most of them besides Bolt and Namor live in and are US citizens i wouldn't say they lack political bindings
This isn't our world though. Strange has been given the responsibility of protecting the universe, Reed isn't just smart he's ridiulously beyond anyone else.
I doubt Xavier or Strange would identify themselves as Americans 😬
Originally posted by SuperherovandalWho's right is it to decide when to send a dangerous person away?
however its not their right to do so.
Originally posted by SuperherovandalObviously the US government didn't disaprove of the desicion to send Hulk away. Look where tony is. Not in jail.
They should leave it to those who actually have the authority. And considering most of them besides Bolt and Namor live in and are US citizens i wouldn't say they lack political bindings
Try as hard as you want you're still failing to see where "those with the authority" are not "those with the ability".
Again, the US government keeps trying to kill the Hulk. Now banner was a US citizen, that makes Hulk that way too. He keeps destroying US property, and the US government keeps trying to kill him.
That should make it pretty damned obvious that the US government doesn't want him here. If it were up to them they probably would have wanted a bomb installed on the ship to detonate when hulk was a safe distance away.
So I guess by your logic the iluminati should have worked to kill Hulk since that was "those with the authority"'s decision. As was obvious from "those with the authority"'s constant attmepts to do so.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Who's right is it to decide when to send a dangerous person away?
And who gives them that right?Obviously the US government didn't disaprove of the desicion to send Hulk away. Look where tony is. Not in jail.
Try as hard as you want you're still failing to see where "those with the authority" are not "those with the ability".
Again, the US government keeps trying to kill the Hulk. Now banner was a US citizen, that makes Hulk that way too. He keeps destroying US property, and the US government keeps trying to kill him.
That should make it pretty damned obvious that the US government doesn't want him here. If it were up to them they probably would have wanted a bomb installed on the ship to detonate when hulk was a safe distance away.
So I guess by your logic the iluminati should have worked to kill Hulk since that was "those with the authority"'s decision. As was obvious from "those with the authority"'s constant attmepts to do so.
The problem with trying to get rid of/banish the Hulk, IS IT NEVER WORKS. As Banner said, leave the beast alone, and it won't bother anyone. They create countless problems by attacking him and trying to get rid of him.
The US govt. was also the bright boys who tried to destroy Providence. Another genius move. 🙄
I think Stark can arrested on a few things. For starters, War profitering. He started a war with Atlantis just to make money.