This is ridiculous! Again with the goddamn amulet....it's never shown itself of ANY use against a strong force user, especially not one who's spent tons more time than Exar gathering up Sith artifacts....And when does Exar USE the goddamn thing in a real fight?
And Palpatine is good enough to kill Bane very quickly, then finish Exar.
More Exar wanking. I thought it went with IKC
Wait, where did the idea that Sidious as of ROTS could take Bane quickly? Yes, he could defeat him, but it wouldn't be by a ton.
On the otherhand, when did Exar ever have a time in which using on of them would have been a good idea? In his fight with Vodo? No, because he was just playing with Vodo for most of the fight and wanted Vodo to join him. With Ulic? No, because he needed an apprentice. When was another time that he fought a powerful Force User? He never had a good time to use his amulet against a powerful Force User. However, when he did use the attack, it destroyed all of the people it hit.
IT's a clear cut confirmation that Palpatine as of....what, TPM is stronger than Bane. by ROTS, it wouldn't be too hard. It would be....what, Qordis over again?
And lesse....Exar could've used it when it'd have saved him, he was there to KILL ULIC until the Sith intervented, btw.
And omg! It killed a brainless monster and a bunch of primitives who don't have a fraction of Dark Side power or experience Palpatine does, WOWEE!
Originally posted by Lightsnake
it's never shown itself of ANY use against a strong force user
Well, I'd suppose Luke's Emerald Lightning isn't the end all, be all solution to fights then?
But to address the actual point: does this somehow mean that it won't have an effect? We've seen the blasts manifest themselves tangibly as energy, we've also seen those very same blasts (from Kun) utterly demolish everything they've came into contact with. From a Sith Wyrm, to solid temple rock, and even disintegrate Massassi (who are force users; even if primitive).
What defenses does our esteemed pile of Sith, Sidious, have to offer in this situation?
especially not one who's spent tons more time than Exar gathering up Sith artifacts....
Relevance? Sith artifacts, such as? What will they help him do, what do they contain, et cetera?
And when does Exar USE the goddamn thing in a real fight?
If you count in the battle against the Sith Wyrm, which, by definition, is a fight - then there.
But, I'm going to outright assume that by "real", you actually meant against a Force user. The answer to your question is: never. Does this mean he somehow can't? We've seen Ulic's sister amulet knock Cay and Nomi down with just some simple rays, nothing even on the magnitude or destructive scale we've seen Kun operate his.
If you take what Ulic did compared to what Kun has done with his, it's quite obvious a blast would undoubtedly annihilate a victim. Furthermore, he never even had a big enough threat to use it on.
Odan? Tooled with a wave of the hand.
Vodo? Pwned by a lightsaber in one page after Kun "turned up the juice" so to speak, and ignited the other end of his lightsaber.
Ulic? The duel went interrupted, and only lasted a page and a half.
Everyone else was a comparative joke to Exar Kun. Sylvar, Aleema, and so on.
In addition, when does Palpatine ever use any of his "ins4ne!4real!!!" powers? Demonstrated as of RotS: Force push, Force lightning. Obviously knows Force choke, and grip (as Dooku and Anakin knew them). I'm sure there are more, but I'm no Sidious fangirl, so I don't keep track of what he knows by what time period. So, feel free to add whatever additional powers you undoubtedly will.
Exar, as far as we know, is a practitioner of three of the four mentioned above (we haven't seen him use grip, but in all likeliness he knows it; nonetheless, I won't count it). We also know that as a 4000 year old spirit (weakened) with the neophyte Kyp Durron, his attack was not able to be defended against by post-DE Luke, who tried every trick in the book he had learned up to that point (including Sidious' training).
He also has an array of Sith magic at hand, as well as the beloved amulets. Going through the list, does Palpatine even know Sith magic (at that point)? If so, how proficient is he with it? When has Palpatine ever demonstrated the ability to block energy, which is seemingly instantaneous, and "doubles with each pulse of anger" (note: the blast is monstrous in its initial size, and its destructive scale is far greater than anything we've seen from Sidious as of RotS)?
More Exar wanking. I thought it went with IKC
Elaborate please. How is it "Exar wanking"? All due respect, I'd surmise saying that Sidious tools Bane "right off the bat" is quite the figurative "wanking".
Debate aside, do you still sign on to AIM? I haven't been on in awhile, but just wondering.
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And lesse....Exar could've used it when it'd have saved him, he was there to KILL ULIC until the Sith intervented, btw.
When could it have "saved him"? Throughout the entire series, when he's in possession of the amulet, he's never put in a situation that would be a threat to him. His duel with Ulic was a basic stalemate in terms of lightsaber combat, and as soon as we find that out, Ragnos causes an intervention, and stops the duel. It was a page, and a half.
He had no chance or reason at that point to use it. Likewise, I could ask "when it'd save him (Sidious)", he was trying to KILL YODA; yet all he uses in Force lightning, and plays tennis with Senate pods.
^Albeit, it got the job done, it was still an unimpressive display of Force powers that are destructive, and he also almost g0t s3rv3d in that duel. Even getting pushed across the entire room, and only stopped by his own chair (which tumbled over, btw).
But whatever, the main point was: there was never a situation that was necessarily "life threatening" that the amulet could've been put to good use on (against all the Jedi? No.). And he never got to finish dueling with Ulic, so it'd not definite to say he couldn't have or wouldn't have.
Originally posted by Advent
Well, I'd suppose Luke's Emerald Lightning isn't the end all, be all solution to fights then?
But to address the actual point: does this somehow mean that it won't have an effect? We've seen the blasts manifest themselves tangibly as energy, we've also seen those very same blasts (from Kun) utterly demolish everything they've came into contact with. From a Sith Wyrm, to solid temple rock, and even disintegrate Massassi (who are force users; even if primitive).
What defenses does our esteemed pile of Sith, Sidious, have to offer in this situation?
Relevance? Sith artifacts, such as? What will they help him do, what do they contain, et cetera?
If you count in the battle against the Sith Wyrm, which, by definition, is a fight - then there.
But, I'm going to outright assume that by "real", you actually meant against a Force user. The answer to your question is: never.
Does this mean he somehow can't? We've seen Ulic's sister amulet knock Cay and Nomi down with just some simple rays, nothing even on the magnitude or destructive scale we've seen Kun operate his.
If you take what Ulic did compared to what Kun has done with his, it's quite obvious a blast would undoubtedly annihilate a victim. Furthermore, he never even had a big enough threat to use it on.
Odan? Tooled with a wave of the hand.
Vodo? Pwned by a lightsaber in one page after Kun "turned up the juice" so to speak, and ignited the other end of his lightsaber.
Ulic? The duel went interrupted, and only lasted a page and a half.
Everyone else was a comparative joke to Exar Kun. Sylvar, Aleema, and so on.
In addition, when does Palpatine ever use any of his "ins4ne!4real!!!" powers? Demonstrated as of RotS: Force push, Force lightning. Obviously knows Force choke, and grip (as Dooku and Anakin knew them). I'm sure there more, but I'm no Sidious fangirl, so I don't keep track of what he knows by what time period. So, feel free to add whatever info. you undoubtedly will.
Exar, as far as we know, is a practitioner of three of the four mentioned above (we haven't seen him use grip, but in all likeliness he knows it). We've also know that as a 4000 year old spirit (weakened) with the neophyte Kyp Durron, his attack was not able to be defended against by post-DE Luke, who tried every trick in the book he had learned up to that point (including Sidious' training).
He also has an array of Sith magic at hand, as well as the beloved amulets. Going through the list, does Palpatine even know Sith magic? How proficient is he? When has Palpatine ever demonstrated the ability to block energy, which is seemingly instantaneous, and "doubles with each pulse of anger" (note: the blast is monstrous in it's initial size, and it's destructive scale is far greater than anything we've seen from Sidious as of RotS)?
Oh, btw, he's able to pull off rituals that engulf PLANETS in destructive storms and fuel dark rages in hearts. That seems a bit above anything Exar's ever accomplished
Elaborate please. How is it "Exar wanking"? All due respect, I'd surmise saying that Sidious tools Bane "right off the bat" is quite the figurative "wanking".
Debate aside, do you still sign on to AIM? I haven't been on in awhile, but just wondering.
When could it have "saved him"? Throughout the entire series, when he's in possession of the amulet, he's never put in a situation that would be a threat to him. His duel with Ulic was a basic stalemate in terms of lightsaber combat, and as soon as we find that out, Ragnos causes an intervention, and stops the duel. It was a page, and a half.
He had no chance or reason at that point to use it. Likewise, I could ask "when it'd save him (Sidious)", he was trying to KILL YODA; yet all he uses in Force lightning, and plays tennis with Senate pods.
^Albeit, it got the job done, it was still an unimpressive display of Force powers that are destructive, and he also almost g0t s3rv3d in that duel. Even getting pushed across the entire room, and only stopped by his own chair (which tumbled over, btw).
But whatever, the main point was: there was never a situation that was necessarily "life threatening" that the amulet could've been put to good use on (against all the Jedi? No.). And he never got to finish dueling with Ulic, so it'd not definite to say he couldn't have or wouldn't have.