Superman, Martian Manhunter and Kilowog versus BRB, Gladiator and Surfer

Originally posted by bigbran
Wait, how would Doom know how to function it as well?
Also, doesn't take away from the fact, that Thor was able to use it.

Doom is so smart. he knew how to use Galactus power. Hell he knew how to steal it. I'm sure he knows about the gem and how it works and what it does. Any way, I'm not saying thor can't use the gem, he just can't use it as good as Thanos. Even drax was able to use the gem. And he was dumb as two bricks. But no one can use the Gem like Thanos could.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Doom is so smart. he knew how to use Galactus power. Hell he knew how to steal it. I'm sure he knows about the gem and how it works and what it does. Any way, I'm not saying thor can't use the gem, he just can't use it as good as Thanos. Even drax was able to use the gem. And he was dumb as two bricks. But no one can use the Gem like Thanos could.

Also, no one has tapped into the full energy of the gems either.

Originally posted by Soljer
Despite what you may prefer, the forum goes by highest showings....

And let's face it, comparing Thor's highest showings to Superman's just ends with the same result, except this time Superman would be moving at speeds just below creating a boom-tube with solar system-moving strength to knock Thor's ass out.

Originally posted by bigbran
Umm, That was a furture Doom, and he was told how to steal Galactus's power from someone else.
Still doesn't equate him into using the gem like Warlock.

Also, no one has tapped into the full energy of the gems either.

I thought it was impossible to tap them fully unless they are being used in unison. Like you have to have control over all the aspects in order to not mess up anyone aspect of the universe right?

Originally posted by UniOmni
I consider MM to be equal to Xavier, and Nova trumps Chuck by a fair bit.

Ie, i don't see MM as equal to Nova.

Ok, first of all, Marvel wins.
Second of all, Thanos can solo both teams, he curbstomps SS who can bean each one of the characters in the thread, and doesnt even have trouble with him.
Third of all, I dont have any idea of who is stronger between Supes and Gladiator, I dont think its very important here since SS will take whoever he fights really fast and defeat Supes before he can finish Gladiator off (in case he wins); SS beats the others easier than Superman beating Gladiator.

Originally posted by Accel
Contrary to popular belief, the forum rules state nothing about highest showings. The majority of the forum only goes by those because it prefers to do so. If we took absolute highest showings, Spider-Man would be around Class 70 and several top-tiers would be skyfather-esque in terms of power.

And let's face it, comparing Thor's highest showings to Superman's just ends with the same result, except this time Superman would be moving at speeds just below creating a boom-tube with solar system-moving strength to knock Thor's ass out.

Originally posted by Bentley
Ok, first of all, Marvel wins.
Second of all, Thanos can solo both teams, he curbstomps SS who can bean each one of the characters in the thread, and doesnt even have trouble with him.
Third of all, I dont have any idea of who is stronger between Supes and Gladiator, I dont think its very important here since SS will take whoever he fights really fast and defeat Supes before he can finish Gladiator off (in case he wins); SS beats the others easier than Superman beating Gladiator.

gladiator is superior to superman in all aspects. Gladiator would mud stomp superman.

Nah...Supes' goin' all out would murder Gladiator..heck if Cannonball or Hulk could beat Gladiator...then Supes' would have no trouble. I just don't think Gladiator is quite on Superman's level.

Well since spiderman,venom, and batman owned superman that means that carnage could also own him. Do you not understand that gladiator is a villian and he is made to lose. Darkseid just had a struggle with batman and we all know that that cant happen. Gladiator stalemated silver surfer someone who is 3 times as powerful as superman. Also with the cannonball thing. Cannonball absorbed the entire attack that gladiator punched him with (which was stated that it would knock cannonball from earth to the sun.) and he hit gladiator back with that same force BUT gladiator got back up. He was shocked and cannonball gained new power. If superman punched cannonball during that time, cannonball would have done the same thing and hit superman back with the same punch. If you look at that entire book you will know that cannonball didnt stand a chance and if you look at the hulk and gladiator fight you would know that hulk got owned that entire book until he thunder clapped gladiator ears and then he was on the edge of winning. Hulk and cannonball wasnt a threat to gladiator by a experience of luck and gladiator stupidity (trying to fly hulk outer space) did he lose the fight but anything else, that power that cannonball use would work on anybody, right now he do have the power to absorb kinetic energy, thats why he was giving fury ( a being that kills superhumans on a regular basis) a good fight. If written well cannonball could be unstoppable.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I don't know where people are getting that, it makes characters fanboyish. You take a good consistent average.

Originally posted by carver9
Well since spiderman,venom, and batman owned superman.

The Spider-man and venom instances are NONCANON. Stop using that bullshit.

Batman beat Superman with kryptonite.

PS: You're retarded.

Originally posted by batdude123
The Spider-man and venom instances are NONCANON. Stop using that bullshit.

Batman beat Superman with kryptonite.

PS: You're retarded.

Just like cannonball beat gladiator with a new power and hulk was about to die and thunder clapped gladiator in the ear.

I know what superman is capable of, who dont know his capabilities. I also know what gladiator is capable of and he is above superman, thats why it have been stated many of times that gladiator at full confidence is based off of pre crisis superman not the superman that sometimes have problems lifting up tanks on a monday.

Maybe you all need to see the raw power of glads again to know what he is capable of and during this he felt no pain but superman recently go knocked out by a gl ring with ease but this was enough power to destroy a solor system. Like I said he is precrisis superman.

http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gladspunchjv8.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
I know what superman is capable of

If you think guys like Spider-man or Venom could even touch Superman in a fight, than apparently you know absolutely nothing about Superman.

Stop spouting shit please.

Originally posted by Soljer
Eh, Gladiator and Superman seem approximately equal, in my honest opinion.

As long as we are taking a full-confidence Gladiator, that is.

The Surfer stomps Kilowog, and BRB can take the Manhunter much more often than not.

Even if Superman DOES beat Gladiator, he won't be beating either the Surfer or Bill, much less both of them.

That's pretty much what I was going to say. Rock on.

How come the majority of people here have already pitted certain characters against certain characters? Superman - Gladiator, BRB - MMH, Surfer - Kilowog? I thought it was all of them versus all the others. I'd say that if you threw all six into a bru-haha, it'd be a lot splashier then setting them up in individual matches.

I'd like to say that the DC team has a very important advantage in that Superman and Martian Manhunter fight together all the time, and MMH would use his telepathy to link all three together in a coordinated effort. The Marvel side doesn't have that teamwork, nor anywhere near the coordination. Heck, Gladiator would probably think BRB and Surfer were in his way.

I also don't underestimate Martian Manhunter or Kilowog. Martian Manhunter can hold his own against a whole lot. He's got more powers than you can shake a stick at and apparently, he's definitely up there in terms of strength if not energy projection firepower. I thought him going intangible and punching Superboy Prime was pretty sick. Kilowog's probably the fourth best Green Lantern there ever was, behind Hal, Sinestro and Kyle. And his utilization of the ring would probably be the biggest wildcard in the fight.

I also think Beta Ray Bill is highly underestimated as well. He beat Thor. For all intents and purposes, he's at the least, Thor's equal. Not just in battle, but in heart and guts and everythign else. For all the people that can't stand the idea of Superman beating Thor, none of those Thor fanboys will dispute that BRB beat Thor once. I think the author avoided putting Thor himself in here otherwise this will turn into a Thor vs Superman debate (which it still ended up being for the most part), but BRB is by no means an automatically inferior Thor.

And let's face it, Superman and Martian Manhunter have their weaknesses, as much as DC fanboys hate to admit. Magic and red sun radiation (kyrptonite too, but I doubt Marvel team would be able to figure that out and have Surfer whip some up n the spot) and .... fire. Always thought MMH's susceptibility to fire was dumb. But hey. Dem's the breaks. Marvel team has no exploitable weaknesses. And in the end, I think Surfer on his own tips the favor, despite DC team's tactical advantages. I don't like to overestimate Surfer, but there's not much reason not to.

Marvel team 6/10.

You're right! Martian Manhunter does have more powers than I can shake a stick at. pokey