Originally posted by Hitman911
AAAANNNDDD Surfer matter manip abilites may be >>> Onslaughts.
I'll take reality warping and virtual invulnerability over matter manipulation any day.
His goal was to invade the minds of everyone in the universe. He had the power, just needed a way to channel all the energy.
Originally posted by llagrok
Thor alone wasn't capable of beating Onslaught. Check out where he's listed on the KMC tier list. If you don't think he's strong enough to beat SS then go propose him being moved down and see what people say.
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Couldn't Onslaught just dump SS on an astral plane and forget about him?
Originally posted by Priest
meaning another dimention or plane? if so Surfer can open come back to any dimention that he has visted in the past. corrent me if im wrong, im not an expert on astral planes of existance.
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Edit, if u wanna play that card, Surfer can dump him into a a Black Hole.
I mean locked away in a dimension or plane within Surfer's own mind. Onslaught could royally mindrape Surfer into thinking he is somewhere else
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
I mean locked away in a dimension or plane within Surfer's own mind. Onslaught could royally mindrape Surfer into thinking he is somewhere else
Originally posted by Priest
Thanks for clearing that up..
But i really doubt that Surfer can be mind raped as easily as u think. He resisted TP from Moondragon with the procession of the MindGem in the past, Moon Dragon and Xavier(alone) arent as far part in legues when it comes to TP...Surfer him self is a pretty decent telepath on his lonesome also.
I agree with you. I don't think it would be easy for Surfer to be mindraped...but, I think Onslaught would be the epitome of mindrape. If anyone could do it to Surfer...Onslaught probably can.
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
I agree with you. I don't think it would be easy for Surfer to be mindraped...but, I think Onslaught would be the epitome of mindrape. If anyone could do it to Surfer...Onslaught probably can.
Originally posted by Priest
👆 i dont know many telepaths that are in Onslaughts legue.. any one has a chance he may.
BUUUUUUUUULSHIIIIT.
Onslaught's telepathy was amplified far above Nate Grey and Xavier's levels combined. No one at or below herald level would be able to resist, or overcome it.
For some reason you think that Silver would stand jack shit chance against someone who has Reality warping? Barring the reality warping he'd still have an incredibly huge chance at winning. Do you understand that reality warping is more versatile than anything else?
Originally posted by Hitman911
AAAANNNDDD Surfer matter manip abilites may be >>> Onslaughts.
No way.
Originally posted by llagrok
Both Powerful, but on an entirely different scale.Galactus is a universal threat, Onslaught is merely a planetary. That's not according to the Nova files by the way, according to them everyone is a universal threat.
Looking what power Onslaught had, if he would want to be Universal threat, he would be. His powers were awesome.
Anyway, a good fed Galactus should win.
Onslaught with the many power he had should have been a powerhouse on a universal scale but man was he a disappointment.
Nate gray, Prof X, Magneto and Franklin Richard who at full potential should be baring Celestrials levels. He should of been undefeated and they should of have him fight against Abstract beings if we really wanted to see what he was capable of.
Surfer written to his full potential is no weakling but if Onslaught was written to his full potential he should be defeating surfer rather easily, which mean that he should be able to give Big G a good battle which i am not sure who could win. Big G probrably gets the Majority because of the UN.
Originally posted by llagrok
BUUUUUUUUULSHIIIIT.
Onslaught's telepathy was amplified far above Nate Grey and Xavier's levels combined. No one at or below herald level would be able to resist, or overcome it.
Surfer is a herald 😐 so wats the point of the above statement? 😕 ...i already stated that Sufer has some high end TP resistance, he does have a good chance of avoiding a mind rape e.g. Moondragon with Mind gem..
Originally posted by llagrok
For some reason you think that Silver would stand jack shit chance against someone who has Reality warping? Barring the reality warping he'd still have an incredibly huge chance at winning. Do you understand that reality warping is more versatile than anything else?
Also this is not a Silver Surfer vs Onslaught match, come to think of it, I never said anything about Surfer taking the majority if they did fight. so i don't understand where ur commin from 😕
Onslaught would kill Galactus - he had the power of Franklin Richards, Nate Grey, Magneto, & Xavier. He tore the Gem of Cytorrak right out of Juggernaut, a feat of incredible power considering the gem isn't in Juggernaut in the first place. Also, he made thousands of loyal fans stop reading Marvel comics in the summer of '96. That's powah!
The day I see Onslaught do something like this:
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5809/galactusteleportmo8.jpg
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6282/galactuspoweryk2.jpg
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2013/galactusshockwavedr2.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6125/galactusshockwave1oz9.jpg
We can begin to talk about a little win for Onslaught and keep in mind that this is Galactus after having fought Tenebrous and Aegis and already being weak:
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/?action=view¤t=galactusoffguard.jpg
And after having been imprisoned for some time and having his energy being used as a weapon.
So is it safe to assume that this is weaking and near starving Galactus ✅
Here you can see Galactus beyond starving:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/419848_6-galactus-and-heralds-respect-thread
And starving and very badly weakend he is still a match for: silver surfer, the entire shiar fleet, the avengers the starjammers and so on and on.
Are you getting a picture of what Onslaught would be against Galactus ???
