DC versus Marvel: A Multiversal War

Started by nvrbeenwthagirl8 pages

Originally posted by Soljer
Then only the alternate dimension's Mxy is multiversal in power. Not the main DCU Mxy....

You can't pick and choose, 😬.

There is no such thing as Alternate dimension imps is what I"m telling you. the imps where not affected by crisis. i'm not picking and choosing. DC is.

Originally posted by Galan007
I think he is saying that there is only 1 Mxy in general..

Thats what I got from it at least


Thank you. That is what I was saying.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thank you. That is what I was saying.

A little clearer next time?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There is no such thing as Alternate dimension imps is what I"m telling you. the imps where not affected by crisis. i'm not picking and choosing. DC is.
But the Imps (or at least Mxy) were affected by Day of Vengence....

How dumb is that?

Originally posted by Soljer
A little clearer next time?

Actually IC made the World's Funnest Waaaay more cannon than Hypertime ever did. Thus making Mxy themost powerful being that ever displayed power in the DCU. ANd Bat mite was the only one to survive. They could be like a parody of The beyonder and Molecule Man turned cannon by IC. But I think my point is clear. there is a match in DC for ever cosmic and Marvel and Vice Verse.

Originally posted by Galan007
But the Imps (or at least Mxy) [b]were affected by Day of Vengence....

How dumb is that? [/B]

Very. DC isn't known for it's editorial consistancies. One should note that Mxy was not shown as being dead. He actually looked to still retain his power. As he imped out at the end.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Very. DC isn't known for it's editorial consistancies. One should note that Mxy was not shown as being dead. He actually looked to still retain his power. As he imped out at the end.
Yeah technically Mxy still had his powers (or at least some of them), he just forgot how to use them.

When he "took the bullet" for Supes he muttered his name backwards and seemingly returned home (because he has been seen since that incident)...... So who knows?

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah technically Mxy still had his powers, he just forgot how to use them.

When he "took the bullet" for Supes he muttered his name backwards and seemingly returned home because he has been seen since that incident...... So who knows?

Even still, with Thier being a box of spectres hanging around, The Word, Micheal, Lucifer and others, I dont' see how anyone can think Marvel out powers DC. they seem as even as they can get. Am I wrong? Mxy just makes my case that he is truly a multiversal power like I been saying for ever.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Even still, with Thier being a box of spectres hanging around, The Word, Micheal, Lucifer and others, I dont' see how anyone can think Marvel out powers DC. they seem as even as they can get. Am I wrong? Mxy just makes my case that he is truly a multiversal power like I been saying for ever.
Yeah, I don't think Marvel should be considered the more powerful company just because they put more emphasis on their cosmics then DC does...

I loved WF Mxy, and if that is really cannon then Great!

But I don't know if it is for sure, so I'm not going to call him Multiversal or use those feats unless otherwise specified (yet).

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, I don't think Marvel should be considered the more powerful company just because they put more emphasis on their cosmics then DC does...

I loved WF Mxy, and if that is really cannon then Great!

But I don't know if it is for sure, so I'm not going to call him Multiversal or use those feats unless otherwise specified (yet).

Reread IC. And look at the all the worlds in IC that were depicted. Many of them were elseworld's tales. Meaning these stories that we thought were just fun were in fact, real universes. And since there is only one Mxy, World's Funnest would have to be cannon as well since all the rest of them were. I'll put alink up in a second.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Reread IC. And look at the all the worlds in IC that were depicted. Many of them were elseworld's tales. Meaning these stories that we thought were just fun were in fact, real universes. And since there is only one Mxy, World's Funnest would have to be cannon as well since all the rest of them were.
When I get home I'll re-read that arch (its been a long time since I first bought it), and do some research.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'll put alink up in a second.
Please do.

Originally posted by Galan007
When I get home I'll re-read that arch (its been a long time since I first bought it), and do some research.

Please do.

You know I have been looking for a way to prove all along that World's funnest was cannon and at every turn I failed. And then I read this article. And then checked it in IC and it's all true. Read this entire article and then check your IC books and you'll see that it is right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse_(DC_Comics)

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You know I have been looking for a way to prove all along that World's funnest was cannon and at every turn I failed. And then I read this article. And then checked it in IC and it's all true. Read this entire article and then check your IC books and you'll see that it is right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse_(DC_Comics)

I'll look into it further when I get home...

Originally posted by Mr Master
True Beyonders-THe 10th dimension Imps

A MINUTE BIT of the True Beyonders' Powers made Post Molecule Man, and MM can bring down the Multi-verse

TB>10th Imps

HOM Scarlet Witch-bat Mite

What has Bat Mite done?

Wasn't it Non Canon Mxy that erased the Multi-verse?

Abraxas-ION

Abraxas can ONLY be stopped by a force that can Erase a Multi-verse.

Ion can't erase a Multi-verse

Abraxas>ION

Post Molecule Man-Mr.Myx (So I guess you don't have the entire 5th D Imps going up against the True Beyonders?)

Post Molecule Man was breaking down the Multi-verse, and only spared it because Kubik begged him to.

99% of Mxy's power allowed Joker to destroy and remake ONE Universe.

MM>Mxy

Multi-Eternity/Infinity/Death -Kismet/Anti-Life/Alexander Luthor

Kismet does NOT equal to a Multi-verse.

ALE does NOT equal to a Multi-verse

A. Luthor, is this a joke?

Multi-Eternity/Infinity/Death>Kismet/Anti-Life/Alexander Luthor

Cosmic Containment Units-The Oan battery

Since when does the Oan Battery function as a sentient being that fights?

CC>Oan

Infinity-The Worlogog

Same here, the Warlogog is not an Entity that does battle.

Infinity>Warlogog

Expediency-The Speed Force

Again, Speed Force is not an intelligent form of existence

Expediency>speed Force

In-Betweener-Phantom Stranger

IB>PS

The Stranger-Grand Mother Box

While the Mother Box is a sentient Computer, never heard of it doing battle on it's own.

?

The ones you missed:

Atleza juggles a Multi-verse like you or I would juggle tennis balls

Eulogy - embodiment of the Ending of things, (as Eternity is the beginning, Eulogy is the End)

Epiphany - embodiment of and/or cause of all quick solutions in the Universe.

the Anomaly - the embodiment of all things that are like no other things, it obeys no physical laws and is the exception to all rules.

Origin - can recreate ANY Super being in the Universe.

the Un-Being - Reality manipulator, can re-write the Origin of any being in the Universe, preventing them from having ever existed.

Epoch - Universal Awareness, one with the Celestial Axis (which keeps the Universe stable) gave Captain Marvel his powers and created the Quantum Bands

I agree with the rest.

This is a redone list of DC matches to MR. Master's list. Doing research and some help from him on the Marvel Characters, these guys seem to be the closet I could find to a match.

Living Tribunal-Spectre
True Beyonders-THe 10th dimension Imps
The Infinites-The entire race of 5th Dimension Imps
Abraxas-ION
Post Molecule Man-Mr.Myx
Oblivion-Parallax
Atleza- Alexandor Luthor
Multi-Eternity/Infinity/Death – Imperiex/Full power AntiMonitor/Krona
HOM Genis-Vell-Quisp
HOM Scarlet Witch-BatMite
Cosmic Containment Units-The Guardians
Eternity -Kismet (as of JLAvengers cannon for DC)
Infinity-The Worlogog in Metrons Possession
Death-Death
Entropy-Destruction
the Rot-Maggeddon
Master Order -Nabu
Lord Chaos-Mordu
Mistress Love-Desire
Master Hate-Delirium
Eulogy-The Word
Expediency-The Speed Force(wielded totally by Wally)
Epiphany-Metatron the Angel.
Enmity-Dispair
Empathy-Dream
the Anomaly- Dominus
Origin- The Godwave Wielder
the Un-Being-Dr. Manhattan
the Celestials-The Quantum Mechanics
Galactus-Yuga khan
In-Betweener- Kismet
Chronos-Extant
The Watchers-The Zamarans
Epoch- S’ivaa the Destoyer
The Stranger-The Phantom Stranger
The Vishanti-Lucifer
Cosmic Cubes-The Monitors
the White Phoenix of the Crown-Michael the power of God Angel

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I certainly figured you would have this opinion. It's no secret that you think the MULTIVERSE of marvel. But You severly under estimated many of the beings on mylist. It's not your fault. you are Biased. Very much so. It's very evident.

Stick to the debate, and stop posting your meaningless opinion of how I feel on the matter.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The 10th Dimension imps are so far above the 5th dimension imps it's not even funny. Yet you so easily dismiss them.

The True Beyonders with a MINUTE Bit of their power can crash the Multi-verse, and there's an entire RACE of them.

So yes, the 10th Dimension gets erased.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You also Dismiss Ion easily when Ion has more power than Parallax, and Parallax erased the Multi Verse. So come again about him not being multiversal.

So has Ion erased the Multi-verse before, or is a statement that your basing his Multiversal power on?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The inbetweener does not trump the phantom stranger! The phantom stranger is just below the spectre. Come again?

If that's true fine, Inbetweener would lose.

But your word is not to trust worthy,

you thought the Anti-Life Equation had the power of Billions of Universes. 😆

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And it doesn't matter if something is a sentient being or not, it's power is there and that is what i"m trying to illustrate. As long as the power is there, there are beings who can possess the power to defend the DCU.

So The speed force can easily be all in Bart and he can fight expediency.

Well in that case, let me bring in Thanos with the HOTI, (TOAA's POWER)

come again?

Warlock with the Infinity Gauntlet (NOTHING below LT can stop him)

Galactus with the Ultimate Nullifier (Multiversal Eraser and Creator)

Quasar with the Starbrand (Multiversal destroyer)

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As far as your reference to MM and Mr. Mxy. your wrong. The Guide to Infinite Crisis says IC Made every single else worlds tale cannon. They all happened due to SBP. THUS making world's funnest cannon. And since there is no alternate Imps,

Non Canon.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Batmite and Mr. Mxy did erase the entire DCU multiverse. as much as you love say they didn't, you might wanna read the IC again and check out what the DC editor's staff has to say about the implications of IC.

It was only Non Canon Mxy that erased the Multi-verse.

Batmite was just there for the ride.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Also, oyu might want to reread the emporer joker saga. Mxy said that what the joker did to the universe was a big fat joke. He didn't even know how to realize the full use of mxy's power and mxy said he could have done what the joker did with ease. EASE. Read that story. it's one of the best. If you have any questions about it, please feel free to ask.

Whatever.

99% of Mxy's Power, destroys and remakes ONE Universe On Panel.

End of Story.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As far as you putting down kismet alexandor luthor and the anti-life, check them out. Kismet is the Multiversal Guardian of the DCU.

This is why your word has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Kismet is equal to Eternity the SINGLE Universe at best.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
the Anti-life is powerful enough to destroy Universes.

And yet,

Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen defeated this Multi-Universe destroyer.

Long enough to prevail!

"The threat of the ALE is forever ended"....."how"

the bridging Dimension between our Reality and it's has been eradicated"

Come again?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And we all know what alexandor luthor can do. he was playing with billions of universes as if they were nothing.

hysterical2

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So I just dont' see where you get off trying to dismiss them so easy. But again, I know where your coming from. you are the mr master of all things marvel. NOT DC.

Thanx on the props, and underestimation.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As far as the Worlogog goes, Metron could easily have the power of the worlog and fight infinity. Nuff said. It's the power that counts. Not that it has to be a being.

Yea,

I left out all the artifacts and weapons in Marvel.

I now included them,

So, WHO exactly is going to battle Thanos with Heart of the Infinite?

Since Spectre is caught up againt the Living Tribunal?

Or Warlock with the Infinity Gauntlet, when ONLY a being that is EQUAL to the Living Tribunal can stop him?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There is always the box of Spectre's that the presence keeps handy.

That whole box would be absorbed by Thanos with the THOTI.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Or did you forget that the Spectre was not the first wrath of God.

That's nice.

I'll sick LT on his ass.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Also there are other beings like GEB,

What has the GEB done On Panel?

And if the GEB is equal to the Presence, and we're going to throw in supreme beings, then ALL the characters we have mentioned are inconsequential.

This WAR goes no where.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Dr. Manhattan, the Nebula Man, the Lord of Time, Dominus, Imperiex, The Monitors, Asmodel, Glorith, Abaddon the destroyer, S'ivaa, Black Flash, Black Racer, The God Wave Wielder, The angel Gabriel, The Kindly Ones, The Metatron Angel, Trigon, The Word, The Zamarans,a nd others I can think of right now,

Your just throwing up names, and you don't even know what they can do.

Dr manhattan, is a child is this War, so is Black Flash, Black Racer.

I don't know the rest, but I'll look them up, lest you try and tell me they can all hold Multi-verses in their hands.

Like the ALE with the power of Billions of Universes, funny.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You know I have been looking for a way to prove all along that World's funnest was cannon and at every turn I failed. And then I read this article. And then checked it in IC and it's all true. Read this entire article and then check your IC books and you'll see that it is right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse_(DC_Comics)

HOW does this link prove in any way that WF is Canon?

This link has absolutely NOTHING to do with Mxy or World's Funnest.

Originally posted by Mr Master
HOW does this link prove in any way that WF is Canon?

This link has absolutely NOTHING to do with Mxy or World's Funnest.

Read it and then take a look at IC and you'll see what they are talking about. Sometimes things have to be pointed out to you to make them visable even tho they are right in front of your face.

Also DS could easily Have all the power of the Source and Match Thanos with the Heart of the universe. I could easily Put Current Ion against Thanos with the IG and Classic Ion against Abraxas. All things considered. They are equal.

Originally posted by Mr Master
So has Ion erased the Multi-verse before, or is a statement that your basing his Multiversal power on?
Though Ion has never destroyed the Multiverse on pannel as Parallax has, its safe to assume he could...

You see, Ion has the power that Parallax possessed, and MUCH more... If Parallax was able to destroy the Multiverse and begin to create his own universe in its place, we can assume that Ion (having much more power) could do the same, and more.

Its kind of the same thing as Magus /w/ an Incomplete IG having control over multiple universes. By this we can assume that Thanos /w/ a complete IG could do the same, and much more, (even though he only showed control over 1 universe).

Fair enough?

Originally posted by Galan007
Though Ion has never destroyed the Multiverse on pannel as Parallax has, its safe to assume he could...

You see, Ion has the power that Parallax possessed, and MUCH more... If Parallax was able to destroy the Multiverse and begin to create his own universe in its place, we can assume that Ion (having much more power) could do the same, and more.

Its kind of the same thing as Magus /w/ an Incomplete IG having control over multiple universes. By this we can assume that Thanos /w/ a complete IG could do the same, and much more, (even though he only showed control over 1 universe).

Fair enough?


The applied logic is very fair. (Often times than not, Applied logic only works when people want it to.and I'm not calling anyone out 😛) But I see no flaw in your logic, which was the same thing I was getting at.