Originally posted by Starhawk
When has he ever demonstrated that power in the past and considering he doesn't win every battle there is obviously some things it cannot do.
Like I said, he's devolved the Shark and Gorilla Grodd who both possess mutagenic genes. He's also stripped people of their powers who got mutagenic super-gene therapy from Lex Luthor.
Green Lantern loses either to higher level cosmics or he jobs to Superman and the like.
Just like Surfer.....
Originally posted by Space M ummyJohn and Kyle are rookie GLs now?
because GL isn't the surfer. Surfer is thousands of years old by now and extremely experienced with his abilities. He also has a cosmic awareness that allows him to know his opponents weaknesses (when the writers remember to use it...)GL, while posessed of the strongest weapon in the DC universe isn't as experienced in his abilities as surfer is. Would a green lantern who's had a ring for five minutes be as effective as a 50 year vet?
obviously not.
So: to recap to make this as simple as possible:
Surfer has fought tons of mutants and thus knows what a mutant gene is and how to turn it off.
Green Lantern: "What's a mutant gene?"
Also: there's a good chance that "devolving" apocalypse may not work, as his physiology was substantially altered by both celestial tech and a technorganic virus. I doubt his genes are anything close to human at this point.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
because GL isn't the surfer. Surfer is thousands of years old by now and extremely experienced with his abilities.
Kyle nor Gardner are rookies with their powers. A mutant with an easily exploitable weakness isn't beyond their "limited" experience.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
He also has a cosmic awareness that allows him to know his opponents weaknesses (when the writers remember to use it...)
Green Lanterns possess a supercomputer (similar to a Motherbox) that's connected to the Oan Battery that stores pretty much everything that there is to know in the DCU.
It would automatically scan the mutants and determine that their mutagenic genes can be turned off.
GL Supercomputer >>>>>>>>>>Buncha human scientists.....
Originally posted by Space M ummy
GL, while posessed of the strongest weapon in the DC universe isn't as experienced in his abilities as surfer is.
Based on what? You're saying that Kyle and Gardner have no idea how to use their rings?
And for your information, they've used it for thousands of years also if you count their various timeline travels, parallel dimension stays and the fact that Kyle had to fight for one million years in the 345rd Century against a horde of Neron demons locked in a time flux....
No experience my ass....
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Surfer has fought tons of mutants and thus knows what a mutant gene is and how to turn it off.
Green Lantern has also fought tons of mutants and thus knows what a mutant gene is and how to turn it off....
At least SIX of his rogue galleries are mutants....
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Green Lantern: "What's a mutant gene?"
GL Supercomputer: A genetic enyzme that grants the organism various paranormal abilities. It can be nullified. Commencing...
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Originally posted by Space M ummy
Also: there's a good chance that "devolving" apocalypse may not work, as his physiology was substantially altered by both celestial tech and a technorganic virus. I doubt his genes are anything close to human at this point.
Too bad the GL ring has absorbed technology far beyond anything in Apoc's makeup....
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Originally posted by Starhawk
But can he do that faster then Stryfe and Exodus can TK him into peices?
Which Kyle or Guy can do. Do you REALLY think that TK is going to rip two beings that can survive a black hole as if it were a simple vacuum cleaner??
Originally posted by Starhawk
Also we don't really know what the current ring can really do.
Yeah. We do. If you've read the comics. Which you clearly don't. Hell, I doubt you read much DC at all.
This GL stuff I'm telling is as basic as it gets.
Re: Apocalypse & This group of Horsemen vs Justice League
Originally posted by golem370
Who winsApocalypse- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse_%28comics%29
Horsemen
Exodus
Stryfe
Magneto
Mister Sinister
Classic Juggernaut
Cable
Aurora
Magikvs
Justice League
Superman
Captain Marvel
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern(John)
Flash
Batman
2 uber tp's vs a team that has none makes life a little tough for the jla, but flash imp's stryfe or exodus before one forms a thought and gl takes out the other.
gl's have just a . . . little resistance to tp . . .
mags would cause some chaos but couldn't put cm out quick enough before flash joined him after flash helps gl ko exodus. with gl, mags is screwed.
interestingly enough, i think magik might be a real threat. even still, ww should be able to deal with her, or cm. juggs is a non-factor as he's far too slow and ground-bound to make any difference. aurora is trumped by superman. sinister is . . . 😕
jla 7-8/10
Green Lanterns possess a supercomputer (similar to a Motherbox) that's connected to the Oan Battery that stores pretty much everything that there is to know in the DCU.
So the anatomy of 616 Mutants is in a computer in the central OAN battery? Somehow I find this highly unlikely. The marvel U is NOT the DC U. and mutant powers aren't "easily turned off."
If Kyle and John had the ability to simply remove an individual's powers at will, they would have actually USED it against significant threats. As it is, the only examples you have of this actually happening are....well..never. Gorilla Grodd is not the same as a human mutant.
And for your information, they've used it for thousands of years also if you count their various timeline travels, parallel dimension stays and the fact that Kyle had to fight for one million years in the 345rd Century against a horde of Neron demons locked in a time flux....
A horde of Neron demons still equals Zero 616 Mutants, and Zero 616 Mutant Genes. WHAT you spend your time doing is just as important as HOW LONG. Though I admit you do have a good point regarding comic book timelines.
Green Lantern has also fought tons of mutants and thus knows what a mutant gene is and how to turn it off....
Again, the genetic events that occurred to trigger mutations in 616 is NOT the same as that in the DCU. 616 Mutations occur as a result of celestial tampering at the dawn of man. As there are no celestials in the DCU, the gene structure is totally different.
Also- I'd like to see evidence of kyle "turning off" the powers of these mutants in his rogue's gallery.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling Kyle or John totally inexperienced or rookies. But compared to surfer, who has a LOT more experience with 616 mutants as well as gene tampering (surfer evolved an entire planet, FYI) they're just not in the same league. My comparison of a rookie GL and a vet is totally accurate. same power levels, but different worlds in terms of experience.