Wolverine vs Batman (with a twist)

Originally posted by supervenom
Not necessarily. Especially if he keeps the claws out and never retracts them. It would probably damage his body badly, but the body does heal itself as well. Not sure if it could handle it coming out like that, but its a possibility. The body would heal over it over time.

How is that, if your talking about his age that's another thing you just assumed because the thread maker never said anything about his age effecting him in this fight.

Originally posted by NiñoAraña
yes nessicarly...if he didn't have his HF he'd pretty much just die..

Have you seen people survive from being impaled by HUGE objects through the stomach and the likes? This is notches below that. Now if it hits a major blood vessel or a nerve, then I would retract my statement. Either then that, I think he can heal from it. Just dont retract the claws, let his body heal over it.

BTW, the topic starter just edited his post, now it includes no claws.

His post was edited about 5 hours ago

Well I just saw it. He edited it after I posted my message, so I had no clue until you brought it up.

The only reason I brought it up was because of NinoArana

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
The only reason I brought it up was because of NinoArana

Figured that was the reason, but I wasnt putting you down if thats what you thought.

no I just didnt want you to think I was being an ass

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
no I just didnt want you to think I was being an ass

Oo ok 🙂

So back on topic, I still say Logan (regardless of the claws).

Batman wins.

well i missed alot...i don't change my opinion (and won't discuss the other thing because it's OT)

I still say Logan wuld take this...hes just a better fighter than Bruce

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
hes just a better fighter than Bruce

False.

Bruce is the more skilled fighter by a fair amount.

Originally posted by capt it up
logan experience and skills have increased greatly since house of M due to remebering his memory.

Logan I would say in my opinion is more skilled then batman how ever I willing to say they are equals which would matter little since logan would still have the physical adavantage not to mention he would have enchanced durability making it much harder for batman to damage him.

I'de say that Batman has him beat in that area, pretty easily. If your going to bring up age, then you might as well bring up Ra Al Ghul (I don't think I spelt it right).

Wait, what do you mean by the physical advantage? Wouldn't he be quite a bit weaker than he was, without adamantium?

Originally posted by batdude123
False.

Bruce is the more skilled fighter by a fair amount.

Feats wise? Cosigned.

Hype wise? Nope, 😉.

Originally posted by capt it up
logan experience and skills have increased greatly since house of M due to remebering his memory.

No offense, Capt, but this is an assumption on your part. I haven't seen anywhere since HOM saying that his experience and skills have greatly increased or increased at all for that matter. Just saying.

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
I would give Logan the advantage over Bruce skill wise. Logan has just way too much experience over Bruce. Bruce has had like thirty something years of training, and Logan has like 400 years of experience in multiple fighting styles. Logan just doesn't really use his training because he normally has his claws and healing factor, without them he'll use his training to the fullest and take out Bruce.

...Four hundred years...? 🤨

Originally posted by bigbran
I thought that the HOM characters weren't usable as in comparison to 616...
Thats what was said in the Sabertooth vs Black Panther thread...

Oh damn. That's right. I completely forgot about that. Capt is always saying how HOM doesn't count, and yet uses it as evidence to say that Wolverine is more skilled and experienced.

Good eye there, bigbran. 😉

I thought house of M didn't count because things were restored, or some such? Wolverine still has the experiences he unlocked from it, though.

Or at least, I believed so.

*sigh*

I don't even know why this needs to be explained.

HoM totally retconned the history of the Marvel Universe. Magneto was attacked by Sentinels in the 70's (at which time there were no active heroes/mutants) and exposed a mutant conspiracy, everything from that point on ward is totally different. Most importantly (for this thread anyway) there was no Weapon X! We know nothing about HoM Sabretooth's past. Did he have any formal training before he came to work for Magneto or did you just use his natural abilities and fall into the role of mercenary? We don't know. What we do know is he never recieved any Weapon X training (since Weapon X didn't exist), he missed out on two upgrades and unlike HoM Logan he was never a member of HoM S.H.I.E.L.D.

So why is Black Panther vs. HoM Sabretooth not at are relevant to Black Panther vs. 616 Sabretooth? Because they aren't the same character. Sabretooth's history is what shapes his character, he isn't the same person he was when he was beating Wolverine around in Frontier days Canada in personality or abilities.

HoM happened - its in continuity - BUT HoM reality characters have totally different back grounds and histories then their 616 counter parts. HoM Sabretooth is much 616 Sabretooth as HoM Captian America was 616 Captain America.