Civil War Report

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
Anyone wanna venture any guesses as to the happenings of CW issue 5?

What i'm curious about is the following plot line: In the latest issue of ASM, in the last panel Iron Man tackled Peter through a wall and it appeared as though an impending fight was inevitable, and yes from what little we can gather about issue 5, Spidey's going to play a large roll. How does he get away from Iron Man, do they fight, has he truly switched sides?

Spidey is going to go underground.

Where Punisher will hunt him down and Pete will convince him against the registration act and they will both join Cap's side

Then Tony will reveal that he has clones of nearly every hero in the MU

Then the Clone Wars begin! 😱

Originally posted by Grimm22
Um, technically not obeying the law does make you a criminal 😐

Whether the law is right or not is debatable

yup

exactly

criminalizing an opinion, making someone a felon for believing something. None of the people being held in the N zone needed to continue playing hero before they were arrested, just having been a hero beforehand made it ok to go after them.

😛 its complicated, I have very werid ideals about law and enforecement

Question:

say that I am a regular citizen in the MU and the hero registration act (HRA) has already been passed.

Now, lets say some weird extradimensional energy field explodes and somehow I am given some weird superpowers. The idea here is that it was accidental, like spiderman, I wasn't trying to get powers.

Now, I have no interest in being a hero, or a villian. While I would probably use my powers to make my own life easier, I am a good person and don't want to harm others, but I 100% compleatly do not buy the "power and responsability" thing.

So, for all extents and purposes, I am a regular citizen who has powers, that was not a hero prior to the HRA and did not try to obtain these powers. I do not play hero or villian.

Do I have to register?

Originally posted by inamilist
Question:

say that I am a regular citizen in the MU and the hero registration act (HRA) has already been passed.

Now, lets say some weird extradimensional energy field explodes and somehow I am given some weird superpowers. The idea here is that it was accidental, like spiderman, I wasn't trying to get powers.

Now, I have no interest in being a hero, or a villian. While I would probably use my powers to make my own life easier, I am a good person and don't want to harm others, but I 100% compleatly do not buy the "power and responsability" thing.

So, for all extents and purposes, I am a regular citizen who has powers, that was not a hero prior to the HRA and did not try to obtain these powers. I do not play hero or villian.

Do I have to register?

Well, I thought it wasn't the Hero registration act, but the Super Human registration act.

And if that's the case, then yes. You are now a superhuman, you now have to register.

oops 😛

well, looks like i caught the dumb

Originally posted by Soljer
Well, I thought it wasn't the Hero registration act, but the Super Human registration act.

And if that's the case, then yes. You are now a superhuman, you now have to register.

I thought the terms were, if you are going to use your powers as a hero or whatever, you had to register. Like if you're going to drive a car, you need to have a driver's license, but if you never drive anywhere, you don't really need one. So, I would venture to say that if you're not out saving people, or using your powers to interfere in the lives of others - you wouldn't have to.

Say for instance, your super power is just to clean your house with your mind. You wouldn't need to register. But, if you have the power to end all existence on earth, then yeah, you would probably have to sign up. Power to clear a room with a superfart - probably not going to need to register. Power to make the bank teller give you hundreds instead of twenties - probably will get found out sooner or later, and should have registered.

That seems to make sense.

Originally posted by inamilist
Question:

say that I am a regular citizen in the MU and the hero registration act (HRA) has already been passed.

Now, lets say some weird extradimensional energy field explodes and somehow I am given some weird superpowers. The idea here is that it was accidental, like spiderman, I wasn't trying to get powers.

Now, I have no interest in being a hero, or a villian. While I would probably use my powers to make my own life easier, I am a good person and don't want to harm others, but I 100% compleatly do not buy the "power and responsability" thing.

So, for all extents and purposes, I am a regular citizen who has powers, that was not a hero prior to the HRA and did not try to obtain these powers. I do not play hero or villian.

Do I have to register?

If you have powers, you have to register.

However, whether you want to be a hero or not is completely up to you

When is the hulk going to come back?

Don't know and hasn't been revealed yet, but Planet Hulk right now is quite enjoyable.

World War Hulk starts in May so I assume thats when.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Is it just me or does anyone think that having heroes sign the registration is kind of pointless?!?

I mean S.H.E.I.L.D has files on all of these guys already. If they really wanted too they could easily get the ones they don't have.

What's the point of having them sign a piece of paper and if they don't they put them in jail?!?

Well SHIELD is a world peace-keepig task force not directly influenced by any one country (yea right). So technically whatever intel they have isn't necessarily privy to the US.

Also this is a measure of control of the heroes. SHIELD may have dossiers on the heroes and their identities but that still doesn't make them culpible to damages they incur as a result of being a hero. Basically the SHRA saves the government a whole lot of wrangling when it comes to dealing with the hero society

**Wonders if this'll be a bad idea**

I like it. If its for real I think its a natural move for the character. Secretary for Defense, strong propenent of the the Act and has been getting real chummy with the SHIELD higher ups. I just hope if Tony takes office we see him as a leader and not as some idiot pawn

Originally posted by marvelprince
Well SHIELD is a world peace-keepig task force not directly influenced by any one country (yea right). So technically whatever intel they have isn't necessarily privy to the US.

Also this is a measure of control of the heroes. SHIELD may have dossiers on the heroes and their identities but that still doesn't make them culpible to damages they incur as a result of being a hero. Basically the SHRA saves the government a whole lot of wrangling when it comes to dealing with the hero society

Yeah, it seems sensible enough but at this rate the death toll is increasing from the introduction of the act, it will be higher than that at Stamford anyway 🙁

Originally posted by jeffrodini
does anyone else notice that there have been at least two different U.S. Presidents in all of this? President Trask and President Bush? Like in Cable - Deadpool it's been Trask, and in some of the early other stuff it's been Bush.

Or am I the only one that caught it?

And, again, when is somebody, an actual big name, going to die?

I agree. Millar went off in a podcast about how he was going to make sure this didn't become one of those things where only minor characters die, but that's all that has happened.

Secondly, I can't explain how the president situation happens... unless Trask or President Bush is secretly a shapeshifter.

Tony stark for president '08

who thinks that Logan and peter will show up for the final cival war battle?

Originally posted by capt it up
who thinks that Logan and peter will show up for the final cival war battle?

I can't say 100% for Logan, but I suspect he'll make his presence known, he's not one to skip a battle.

As for Peter, it's a 50/50 toss-up for me; I think he will definately be involved in the conclusion of Civil War, and according to Marvel, he will "Embark on what might well be the most important offensive of Civil War..." With that in mind, I actually think he might attack the prison system to rescue the rebels, but it's just a thought.

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
I can't say 100% for Logan, but I suspect he'll make his presence known, he's not one to skip a battle.

As for Peter, it's a 50/50 toss-up for me; I think he will definately be involved in the conclusion of Civil War, and according to Marvel, he will "Embark on what might well be the most important offensive of Civil War..." With that in mind, I actually think he might attack the prison system to rescue the rebels, but it's just a thought.

I have a feeling logan will fight he deffently is not one to pass up a battle

Nor does marvel often pass up a chance to stick him in another book.