EVANGEL94's 2nd SLUGFEST SHOWDOWN Tournament: Confirmation and Discussion Thread

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
dude, is this Zemo, with, or without the moonstones? Moonstones put him almost on Meta, maybe slightly above Meta.

You kidding? with 2 Moonstones he's easily in Herald territory

That high? Damn dude. Well, current version has him stranded in the middle ages minus the stones. I had to ask about the stones, just to be sure.

Originally posted by Scoobless
[b]Herald:

Quasar

Enhanced:

Mimic (Exiles)

Guardian

Meta:

Marvel Boy

M (Monet St. Croix)

Street Level:

Hawkeye

Ultimate Hawkeye
[/B]

Switch Guardian for Pulsar (Captain Marvel)

After all the fuss people made about Death Gambit being an OHK, nobody's going to object? Well, I'm grateful. It also seems Apoc gets to stay. Oh yeah, I'm rocking now. 🤘 💃

Yeah I guess I’ll update my team since I made a lot of changes

Super Sonic
http://www.summerofsonic.com/articles/29/

Aquaman (w/ waterbearer hand)
http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?t=27035

Sand
http://www.mykey3000.com/cosmicteams/profiles/sandman.html

Elijah Snow
http://home.earthlink.net/~rkkman/frames/charpage/ChrSnow.htm

Swift
http://www.fortunecity.com/tatooine/spielberg/97/character.html

Ultimate Captain America
http://www.answers.com/topic/captain-america

Lady Shiva
http://www.legionsofgotham.org/BIOSladyshiva.html

Hmmmm though I could use a 616 Marvel character for prep intel :/

Crap. I read up on the Venom Respect threads. Now I have a dilemma. I want to switch back to regular Venom again, but I still need a female. DAMN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION! 😗 incidently, I heard Eddie Brock had access to other powers that the other venom hosts didn't get, like the ability to project the symbiote as a shield to stop bullets, etc. is that true?

I think Jubilee is still up for grabs ... 😛

Talked to Howard Jones. And decided that I want Eddie Brock Venom. As for my female pick, Do I have to? 🙁

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Talked to Howard Jones. And decided that I want Eddie Brock Venom. As for my female pick, Do I have to? 🙁

Yes.

So should we just make a list of the characters we feel may be overly powered for the class that they are in or something?

Originally posted by Scoobless
So should we just make a list of the characters we feel may be overly powered for the class that they are in or something?

Only for the characters that are currently chosen by people, and list a reason why next to each name.

After much consideration, I'm replacing Crossbones with Domino.
http://marvel.com/universe/Domino_%28Neena_Thurman%29

Originally posted by Evangel94
Only for the characters that are currently chosen by people, and list a reason why next to each name.

Yeah, that's what I meant..... here goes (prepares himself to be pelted with rocks from the other participants)

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Enhanced:

Temugin - Mandarin's rings have always kept him well above Iron Man in terms of power ... has a ring that disintegrates matter and one that can manipulate matter

Violator - seems to be completely invulnerable

Meta:

Vixen - Far outweighs Spider-Man in powerset .... Spider-Man's powers are only a fraction of her overall abilities

Quicksilver - would pound Spider-Man into pulp inside 20 seconds

Omega Red - can drain life force

Mr Fantastic - virtually invulnerable ... should be in Enhanced Meta class

Street:

Prometheus - fine if we trim off the Superboy owning weaponry

Gambit (Death) - OHK with that poison thing

Classic Deathstroke - If the same as current is too strong for street level/immortal

Baron Zemo - he's fine if he doesn't have the moonstones

Gamora - Beyond Captain America level strength/durability

Ultimate Spider-Man - way too powerful for street

Ultimate Captain America - most KMCers agree that he's far stronger/more durable than regular Cap (has caught a large tree before)

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waits for the backlash.....

whistling

Lol. I have 3 of these guys on my team. Let's start with the ugly one, Violator. All you have to do is rip him apart enough and blast the remains, and he goes back to hell. If you're not going to ban Spawn, you're sure as hell not going to mess with Violator. Yes, he's ****ing tough and damn hard to kill. But so's Spawn, who is a hell of a lot worse. So lay off the clown.

Omega Red is a pretty tough customer, but there are tougher guys who got picked for enhanced meta, and you should be more concerned with my giving him the carbonadium synthesizer. I don't see a problem, he's beatable and he has been beaten.

Prometheus, ok, that one is somewhat reasonable. Nerf some of his shit, but let him keep the 30+ martial artist's battle data. I'd like to have a chance of winning this.

Death Gambit is meta, first off. And there are ways to use him without OHKing people.

No, the question you should be asking is, WHY THE **** DO I HAVE DOMINO?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?! 😆 Am I the only one in shock that no one has contested that? IT'S ****ING DOMINO! That ***** can pretty guarantee my winning this tournament. Incidently, if no one is objecting, I'm taking AOA version of her. Gotta make sure she takes orders from Apoc.

Re:Temugin
I stipulated up front when I drafted him that certain uses of the rings would be prohibited by the rules. As far as being "above" Iron-Man, I'd argue that he's not. He whupped IM good in their first fight, but I'd call that a clear case of PIS/Jobbing. IM forgot half his powers and got creamed for it. They were a more even match the second time around.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No, the question you should be asking is, WHY THE **** DO I HAVE DOMINO?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?! 😆 Am I the only one in shock that no one has contested that? IT'S ****ING DOMINO! That ***** can pretty guarantee my winning this tournament. Incidently, if no one is objecting, I'm taking AOA version of her. Gotta make sure she takes orders from Apoc.

You posted that while I was working on my list

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Yeah .... Domino should be banned ... the only reason I didn't pick Longshot is that I presumed Luck powers wouldn't be allowed as there is really no way to account for them on either side of a tourney debate.

Finally, someone gets it. I looked over the list and saw the loophole. With Domino or Longshot on your side, you can't lose with good planning. It's almost as bad as having Franklin Richards.

Black Bolt (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackbolt.htm)

Colossus (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/colossus.htm)

Sasqautch (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/sasquatch.htm)

Mr. Fantastic (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/m/mrfantastic.htm)

Madam Medusa (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/m/medusa.htm)

Puck (http://www.marvel.com/universe/Puck_(Eugene_Judd) )

Captain America (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/captainamerica.htm)

about quicksilver is not this actual version with time travel. he´s way to weak to enhanced, he´s meta, there are more guys that can beat spiderman pretty fast in here.
against the likes of venom and mr fantastic etc quicksilver is not going to beat them easily, i don´t even know if he can, they can´t touch him, but his punches won´t do must damage to them.

and you have a telepath in meta level, we should be complaining

About the others:

I think pulsar is above enhanced meta level
and i need to know more about gambit, that poison thing and all, since i don´t know that version can´t really complain.

Originally posted by Loot
about quicksilver is not this actual version with time travel. he´s way to weak to enhanced, he´s meta, there are more guys that can beat spiderman pretty fast in here.
against the likes of venom and mr fantastic etc quicksilver is not going to beat them easily, i don´t even know if he can, they can´t touch him, but his punches won´t do must damage to them.

Mr Fantastic should be in the Enhanced level as well though

Hold on ... I'm talking about superspeed Quicksilver ... was time travel Quicksilver drafted? I thought all time manipulating powers were banned from the start.

And time travel Quicksilver can beat anyone by just touching them ... total OHKO

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Originally posted by Loot
and you have a telepath in meta level, we should be complaining

whistling