One of the reasons Superman is so strong is becuz he absorbs all the sunlight and developes the capacity to soak up even more energy as time goes on. THis is why He ends up becoming Superman Prime. No other kryptonian has been around in the sun that long. And Superman has Thousands of years of absorbtion and energy capacity building under his belt. The reason Diana and CM keep up with Superman in strength has to do with Diana's Connection with the Earth amping her and CM's editorial mandate that he be nearly as strong as Superman. 🙂
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Using kryptonite sure. Recently Superman nearly killed Batman and put him into the hospital during the Sacrifice arc, Does Iron Man have access to it? nope, and even then probally won't work as he would need earth 2 krpytonite to be effective against her.
Superman all out, just having seen Darkseid kill Lois, couldn't kill Batman, one mere human.
He had a full on blitzkrieg, and still didn't manage to kill the guy.
Bane>> Superman
Deathstroke >> Superman
Promethues>> Superman
Bronze Tiger>> Superman
Black Mask >>Superman
Azrael >> Superman
Hush>> Superman
All managed to beat Batman and ko his ass.
All being mostly human, with some minor adjustments.
IIRC, Batman was still conscious after the "beating" Superman put on him in Sacrifice.
My version had him spitting a tooth into Clarks eye, and calling him an off planet scrubbabumabitch....
Was it any different from yours?
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Actually yes, as unlike my mentions Batman never beat him without kryptonite. He was saved, because the JLA came in and rescued him and then used magic and various technology to heal Batman. That hardly proves anything.
Batman was put into a coma, so no he wasn't councious. Also as stated in the comic, Batman hitting the security system saved his life as stated in the comic.
Originally posted by UniOmni
He was out the coma 3 hours later, iirc.Just enough time for WW and Superman to save some people, then meet back at the batcave.
Bane had him down for weeks/months.
Superman couldn't keep him down for an entire afternoon.
Superman: Street Level scrub
Thanks to magic and as stated high level technology
Batman didn't have the resources he had when Bane took him down
Right and twice Superman was interupted, by the security system and the JLA.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not really, him destroying a country and surviving a nuke is common knowledge? news to me.Actually yes, hence why I asked. Or at least issue number.
Regarding Iron Man taking over a country, it's happened in a couple other marvel universes outside 616, depends if you consider them canon or not though.
Iron Man Volume I Issue 275. - Nuclear level blast
There are a few other issues where Iron Man has taken blasts comparable to nukes. Can't cite them at the moment.
King Mungi, haven't you ever seen a debate in a forum where the lack of knowledge was astounding? Not you specifically, but I'm sure you yourself read a few debates where the other poster had no idea what they talking about. I'm sure you have also been in threads where you've had to enlighten people. Then you must be quite aware of what it like when another poster lacks some fundamental basic knowledge.
As they say knowledge is power. 🙂
Originally posted by Evangel94
Regarding Iron Man taking over a country, it's happened in a couple other marvel universes outside 616, depends if you consider them canon or not though.Iron Man Volume I Issue 275. - Nuclear level blast
There are a few other issues where Iron Man has taken blasts comparable to nukes. Can't cite them at the moment.
King Mungi, haven't you ever seen a debate in a forum where the lack of knowledge was astounding? Not you specifically, but I'm sure you yourself read a few debates where the other poster had no idea what they talking about. I'm sure you have also been in threads where you've had to enlighten people.
Unless stated otherwise than no it's not canon
Thank you I will check it out
I know, and that's why I call people on certain points as evidence is a huge thing for me. As I have collected over 2000+ scans used in various threads to prove my point. If you can't provide evidence all I ask is an issue # at least, so I might be able to check into it. Since you provided at least an issue number I'm content. However, this is not basic knowledge as I have many Iron Man comics and no where did he display this sort of firepower or durability.
Listen again, read what I posted earlier. I didn not say conquer or destroy a country. Anybody who knows Ironman knows that he couldn't do something like that even if he was shit faced drunk. I said that he certainly has the capability if he so desired it. Nick Fury alluded to that fact several times as well as Cap. Cap was thinking to himself after teaching Tony without the armor how to defend himself, he was thinking how when IronMan, Tony is such a powerhouse and capable of destroying countries but how stripped without it, Tony is so fragile and is just a man in the end
Originally posted by LordFear
Listen again, read what I posted earlier. I didn not say conquer or destroy a country. Anybody who knows Ironman knows that he couldn't do something like that even if he was shit faced drunk. I said that he certainly has the capability if he so desired it. Nick Fury alluded to that fact several times as well as Cap. Cap was thinking to himself after teaching Tony without the armor how to defend himself, he was thinking how when IronMan, Tony is such a powerhouse and capable of destroying countries but how stripped without it, Tony is so fragile and is just a man in the end
He was talking about all his resources not just the suit, but not all of that comes into play here as it's just him and the suit. Arn't you contradicting yourself? you say he can't and then you just said he has the capability if he so desired. Him having prep is not stipulated, so that doesn't come into factor in this battle. I'm talking about the suit as is, not with prep.
Also yes you did say destroy a country
Originally posted by LordFear
Shields that can withstand nuclear blasts, offensive and defensive weaponry capable of obliterating a country. Need I say more?
Originally posted by King_Mungi
He was talking about all his resources not just the suit, but not all of that comes into play here as it's just him and the suit. Arn't you contradicting yourself? you say he can't and then you just said he has the capability if he so desired. Him having prep is not stipulated, so that doesn't come into factor in this battle. I'm talking about the suit as is, not with prep.Also yes you did say destroy a country
LISTEN TO ME PLEASE!!!!
I said that he can if he so desire. AGAIN I NEVER SAID THAT HE DID. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE UNDERSTAND ME HERE. I never mentionned prep. Prep in my opinion would be overkill for a guy like Tony, who has ADD and needs to tweak and build. Leave him time to focus on a goal, he would be an incredibly difficult opponent to defeat.But that is besides the point