Strong Guy vs Thing

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Honestly, even the winner of the fighting skills department is unclear.

Guido used to be a professional bodyguard. They teach you lots of fighting skills in bodyguard school, to my knowledge.

Yeah I think that their fighting skills MUST be the same.

Strong guy/A 2-6wk course in self-defense training by steve the local security guard at walmart if that =The THING/ a street gang leader/golden gloves boxing champ/Judo/wrestling expert/US military special forces training/UFC (like) champion/years of FF fights against villains through out the galaxy and beyond.

Yeah I'd say their fighting skills are equal.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Yeah I think that their fighting skills MUST be the same.

Strong guy/A 2-6wk course in self-defense training by steve the local security guard at walmart if that =The THING/ a street gang leader/golden gloves boxing champ/Judo/wrestling expert/US military special forces training/UFC (like) champion/years of FF fights against villains through out the galaxy and beyond.

Yeah I'd say their fighting skills are equal.

Euh security guard??? he's a bodyguard, they are not only there to be a human shield to catch the bullets.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Euh security guard??? he's a bodyguard, they are not only there to be a human shield to catch the bullets.

At least someone is smart around here.

And Tony, I NEVER said they were equal. I merely stated that it's unclear as to how much of an advantage Ben has. I know that Ben has the better fighting skills. However, it's not a curbstomp by any means. Guido must have exceptional fighting skills as well, making him a much more formidable foe.

Guido doesnt have the record, and showings that Ben does.

Thing is stronger in this case. Trow the party, Grimm, you finally have one!

Originally posted by olympian
Guido doesnt have the record, and showings that Ben does.

Thing is stronger in this case. Trow the party, Grimm, you finally have one!

Since wenn do you decide iff someone wins or not????

Since i have a beter record than YOU do!

Trow the party, Grimmmmmmm!

Trow? 🤨

Originally posted by olympian
Since i have a beter record than YOU do!

Trow the party, Grimmmmmmm!

Yeah sure you have a better record than me, now let me give you a 👆 👆

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Yeah I think that their fighting skills MUST be the same.

Strong guy/A 2-6wk course in self-defense training by steve the local security guard at walmart if that =The THING/ a street gang leader/golden gloves boxing champ/Judo/wrestling expert/US military special forces training/UFC (like) champion/years of FF fights against villains through out the galaxy and beyond.

Yeah I'd say their fighting skills are equal.

Equal in fighting skill? Nope ❌

Ben is the definitly one of the most skilled out of all the powerhouses in the MU (Only Hercules may be ahead of him)

Ben takes this 8/10

Originally posted by Grimm22
Equal in fighting skill? Nope ❌

Ben is the definitly one of the most skilled out of all the powerhouses in the MU (Only Hercules may be ahead of him)

Ben takes this 8/10

Colossus is the more skilled fighter as well, but that's for another time and place altogether. 😛

Leaning towards Guido in 2009.

Does Guido's ability count if someone just wrestles him instead of hitting him?

I mean if Thing is stronger, and he is, couldn't he just use some holds and finish Strong Guy off before he can absorb enough to be effective?

Otherwise I still go with Thing. He would probably last longer than Guido's heart.

I suppose that would work.

Ok question was Strong Guys heart condition fixed or not? And does Thing really have what it takes to overload him.

It was suppose to be, but in WWHulk it wasn't. Actually I don't think it was ever fixed I think that just the limit was raised.

Odd. He was once in a hold and didnt use kinetic absorption to get out of it, but there was a time Shaman put in a bubble, and seemingly he used it to get out. Dont know.

Im going with Strong Guy. The heart issue shouldnt be an issue.

Edit: As Guido once said. "I toldja, Forge fixed my heart. Its stronger now than it ever was. better than new...!"

Writers dialogue box..."Its true! Forge simulated Guido's heart in x-factor 136, making it the most powerful muscle in strong guy's body..."

This could be a cool fight. If Thing CAN overload his heart, it's a wash.

The whole heart thing keeps Guido out of the league of say Hulk, Colossus, Juggs, Sasquatch, and such. Guido vs Rhino would be fun as well.

It's not just his heart, it's the fact that no matter how strong Guido gets, he has to release all that energy in a fairly short amount of time, which will make his strength go back to base, or close depending on the beating he's getting at the time. As for Thing, he is extremely skilled, but he's usually limited to strikes, the main reason being his body make up. Thick 3 fingered hands, huge rock body, he just isn't made for submissions and holds, and take into account how big Guido's upper body is, it'll be even harder for Thing.

Funny how the heart thing keeps being mentioned in threads, yet there hasnt been a case of any heart condition in a x-factor book in over 10 years. 😬 Considering the only book it happened within the past 12 years was a Hulk book, doesnt quite do him justice.

In a fight with Thing, Guido releasing the energy is a non issue. He doesnt have to just make contact with Thing in order to release it. Thingisnt going to hit him, then all of a sudden be out of range for another attack. Also, Guido's h2h skills shouldnt be underestimated either.

I'd say Thing is the more skilled fighter.