The JLA win.
And for the record, GL wouldn't treat Hulk as a non issue.
The General has seen to that.
Going by averages, Hulk would be a nightmare for the GL.
GL says something smart along the lines of " you're not strong enough to break my shielding, you ugly brute!".
Hulk hits his trademark line, and boom, chaos ensues.
Namor might not be the biggest factor, but he's not far behind WW in strength, and outpaces Aquaman in it by alot.
Taking the all at their highest showings, then yeah, the Defenders win.
Average showing?
The JLA.
Re: Defenders and JLA
[QUOTE
The Defendes:
Black Panther
Surfer
Dr.Strange
Storm
Hulk
Moondragon
Namor
The JLA:
Batman
Superman
G.L John
Wonder Woman
Manhunter
Flash
Aquaman [/B][/QUOTE] This is how i see it....
Dr. Strange v. G.L. John = Strange
Surfer v. Supes = Surfer
Moondragon v. Manhunter = Manhunter
Hulk v. Wonder Woman = W.W.
Namor v. Aquaman = Namor
Storm v. Flash = Flash
Black Panther v. Batman = ( who cares)
So then it becomes
Strange v. Manhunter = Strange
Surfer v. Flash = Surfer
Wonder Woman v. Namor = W.W
Strange and Surfer v. W.W. = W.W. JLA WINS!
Originally posted by Faceman
This is how i see it....Dr. Strange v. G.L. John = Strange
Surfer v. Supes = Surfer
Moondragon v. Manhunter = Manhunter
Hulk v. Wonder Woman = W.W.
Namor v. Aquaman = Namor
Storm v. Flash = Flash
Black Panther v. Batman = ( who cares)So then it becomes
Strange v. Manhunter = Strange
Surfer v. Flash = Surfer
Wonder Woman v. Namor = W.WStrange and Surfer v. W.W. = W.W. JLA WINS!
Or.....
Strange stops time and turns them all into tables.
Originally posted by UniOmniPlease tell me you don't actually think the Hulk can take a GL, even John, and that you're just being capricious...
The JLA win.And for the record, GL wouldn't treat Hulk as a non issue.
The General has seen to that.
Going by averages, Hulk would be a nightmare for the GL.
GL says something smart along the lines of " you're not strong enough to break my shielding, you ugly brute!".
Hulk hits his trademark line, and boom, chaos ensues.
Namor might not be the biggest factor, but he's not far behind WW in strength, and outpaces Aquaman in it by alot.
Taking the all at their highest showings, then yeah, the Defenders win.
Average showing?
The JLA.
Meh, on the forum is what matters unless the OP specifies that they'd like to know how a comic would play out (which happens occasionally).
On the same note I just noticed this thread isn't even a fight. It's asking whether the DC Earth would be better off or whether Marvel Earth would be better off if these teams traded places.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Please tell me you don't actually think the Hulk can take a GL, even John, and that you're just being capricious...
Howie got it right.
Going by the general way this forum leans, high ends are the norm.
So no, hulk loses the majority against forum gl.
But comic gl??
Stalemate with a lean towards hulk.
In comics, brute strength tends to >> all.
Brute strength personified is the Hulk.
Defenders all the way.
SS can trash about anyone on the team by himself (not at the same time obviously), and Strange is icing on the cake.
It's not going to be a bunch of straight one-on-one battles. As soon as someone like Superman punches Hulk through a few buildings, he's going to be facing whoever is right next to him, or helping out his team mates.
I don't think Namor and Hulk are non-factors at all. They're both tough enough to take a few hard hits from the likes of WW and Supes and still be able to get back up and into the fight. They're both good for assisting a team mate as well. Say Panther is dodging around Aquaman, or somehow standing up to him in the fight, when all of the sudden a pissed Hulk comes out of no where with a punch to the back of Aquamans' head. IMO, that's one hell of an assist, and could very well take a non-attentive combatant out of the fight.
er, did everyone just decide to completely and utterly ignore the point of the thread? it's not a fight. it's a question of what would happen if they switched universes.
And that being said, I think it would be a major downhill slope for the DC universe- the JLA confronts all sorts of threats and problems. The Defenders, on the other hand, kind of have a mission by mission thing going on, in that they only get together for major crises, and usually only mystical ones.
Is anyone else thinking of actually responding to the original post?
Originally posted by LordFear
Because in the Defenders comix, thats what he does. I see Strange in deep shit and needing help from SS or Hulk. The guy is not like that. He doesn't strut around with near unlimitless power. It takes time and the right incantations for him to pull that crap off. Trying to handl SS, MM AND GL, I don't see it
If the heroes switched it would be disastrous for the dcu.They would lose their three biggest heroes and superman an idol to millions of dc earth.Marvel would not benefit from the jlas arrival as batman would as always be suspicious and paranoid and most likely fall apart.Plus both Atlantis and Wakanda would lose their leaders and the mu its main authority on magic.
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
On this forum's rules, heck no.In a comic, more than likely. He shattered the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak. He'd be punching through them like paper.
The only time that I know of that Hulk supposedly broke them was during the Heroes Reborn thing in which it was said the dimension gave the person whatever they wanted and Hulk wanted to break the bands...so he did. Well...Frank did, anyway. There's almost always special circumstances when the rare occasion those bands break.
GL would just throw Hulk into orbit.
Originally posted by long pig
Really? When? I remember like a million times where Hulk got locked up by them and begged his way out. He even lied and said he wasn't angry anymore just so he could get out.The only time that I know of that Hulk supposedly broke them was during the Heroes Reborn thing in which it was said the dimension gave the person whatever they wanted and Hulk wanted to break the bands...so he did. Well...Frank did, anyway. There's almost always special circumstances when the rare occasion those bands break.
GL would just throw Hulk into orbit.
I'm thinking of a different occasion. Darkcrawler showed it to me awhile back.
Also, a GL wouldn't throw Hulk into orbit in a comic. That's just way out of their style.