Originally posted by Swanky-TunaNo Souja was reffering to the moment when D'Spayre using Cain's own power on a weakened Cain took away all of Cain's Flesh. In which of course Cain eventually comes back from.
Surfer flayed Juggernaut down to his skeleton?
To my knowledge Cain and Surfer have never fought
Originally posted by Bentley
Souja just hates Galactus as a concept, he doesnt like to think there are giant powerful people who eat planets and have incredible powers. I admit is as silly as hell, but give Galactus a break, despite the stupid dress he is a powerhouse.
Don't hate him, just not gonna overrate him like posters commonly do. Instead of debating of pure speculation of his power, I base my arguments off of whats been shown and Cyttorak has shown his power rivals the power of Galactus.
Originally posted by Decay
galactus should win this easy. dont bring up the onslaught thing, that was bad bad writing. onslaught pulled the gem outof juggernaut. the gem had never been there in the first place, and onslaught pulled it out with two fingers, juggernaut has taken thors godforce and actually stood there, he even tried walking against it but the ground caved. so unless onslaughts thumb and forefinger and a great deal stronger than thors godforce its a pretty stupid idea.juggernaut also had his mind read by psylocke while wearing his helmet. that goes against pretty much every comic the juggernaut has been in. they cant stop him so they have to remove the helmet to attack his mind. the helmut protects it. stupid stupid saga.
anyway, galactus enhances his strength to levels cytorak cant increase juggernauts. or he throws him into space. galactus can fly. it would be a cool fight to see, galactus would have a look of distain on his face the whole way through.
Wasn't Cyttorak a man and then a huge giant Juggernaut? Did Juggernaut beat Cyttorak fairly, or did he have other enhancements not of Cyttorak?
Reason I am asking is because I find it hard to believe that he could beat a being that gave him a fraction of his power. Ive seen the scans when he took the gem from Cyttorak, but I wasn't sure exactly how powerful he was at that time.
Originally posted by bigbran
Not in the universe.
Eternity is the universe, Death resides in her own dimension, non of the abstracts are in the universe, really.
not entirely correct. The abstracts manifest IN this universe via M-bodies. so even though Eternity IS the universe itself, it's manifestation certainly IS within the universe. You could in theory destroy an M-body with sufficient force, they'd just remake them if you did.
The tribunal is top tier within marvel, HOTU notwithstanding. It manifests wherever it wishes and has ultimate jurisdiction over all abstracts and the IG, as seen way back in Warlock #1.
Originally posted by SoujaboyIf you are refering to me... find me where I used specualation...
Don't hate him, just not gonna overrate him like posters commonly do. Instead of debating of pure speculation of his power, I base my arguments off of whats been shown and Cyttorak has shown his power rivals the power of Galactus.
Originally posted by Space M ummyNo, they don't.
not entirely correct. The abstracts manifest IN this universe via M-bodies. so even though Eternity IS the universe itself, it's manifestation certainly IS within the universe. You could in theory destroy an M-body with sufficient force, they'd just remake them if you did.The tribunal is top tier within marvel, HOTU notwithstanding. It manifests wherever it wishes and has ultimate jurisdiction over all abstracts and the IG, as seen way back in Warlock #1.
Still would make me right.
Also, comics might have to disagree with you. Eternity used to just appear out of the sky, and pawn people.
Eternity has the ability to make himself in a smaller more condensed version, still doesn't mean that the thing resides there.
And, LT has what, to do with this?
He manifests, the same thing you claimed the M-bodys do, we know LT doesn't reside in the Marvel universe (616), so what does that say about the M-bodys?
Originally posted by bigbran
If you are refering to me... find me where I used specualation...
No, they don't.
Only Eternity has ever done something that was evevn debatable to doing what you said.
Besides, even if you were correct, that would mean that the M-bodys are always there.
You also said something that seems quite contridicting... "Manifest", that would mean that they don't reside in the universe.Still would make me right.
Also, comics might have to disagree with you. Eternity used to just appear out of the sky, and pawn people.
Eternity has the ability to make himself in a smaller more condensed version, still doesn't mean that the thing resides there.
And, LT has what, to do with this?
He manifests, the same thing you claimed the M-bodys do, we know LT doesn't reside in the Marvel universe (616), so what does that say about the M-bodys?
I didn't say you, now did I? 😕
I have the comic Doctor Strange Sorcerer Supreme 44 which is the comic I think you are refering to.
The cyttorak bands stop galactus ship that he is using to cruise the dimensions. He doesn't try to get them he sends nova and strange out to get the bands. they can't break them. Surfer and Galactus wait inside. Galactus doesn't even try to break them.
He obiviously doesn't deam them much of a disturbance if he doesn't even go out himself. But...
that wasn't even cyttorak. That was just a form he lets people see. according to himself. So it may not have been the full power and wrath of cyttorak.
Originally posted by outarddwarf
I have the comic Doctor Strange Sorcerer Supreme 44 which is the comic I think you are refering to.The cyttorak bands stop galactus ship that he is using to cruise the dimensions. He doesn't try to get them he sends nova and strange out to get the bands. they can't break them. Surfer and Galactus wait inside. Galactus doesn't even try to break them.
He obiviously doesn't deam them much of a disturbance if he doesn't even go out himself. But...
that wasn't even cyttorak. That was just a form he lets people see. according to himself. So it may not have been the full power and wrath of cyttorak.
I stand corrected.