Big Boss vs Ocelot

Well actually, weren't we all fooled in MGS 2? It's pretty hard to realise that the person who has been beside you and helped you for a long, long time, and even when you were betrayed by your organisation still helped you, would actually be a betrayer? Their plan wasn't exactly easy to see, and he still had some tricks left to pull...

Well, I don't know. Liquid has been talking with BB, he got information about many thing's Snake didn't have access to, so Liquid seemed much smarter in those scenes, however, probably only a few people in the world knew that info, Snake wasn't one of them...
Also, Snake had no idea what was going on. He was dragged from his house, put in a mission he didn't even want to take, and then felt like being betrayed by his superiors, Liquid had already planned this operation with the FOXHOUND group....

IMO...

Liquid seems to be way smarter than Solidus. At the end of MGS2 Solidus was pretty much owned by the patriots. They used him as if he was a silly child and he had no idea what's going on untill the end.

Wow. So, Solidus was fooled by his “most trusted man.” Ocelot has played countries before so I don’t see why this should be a shock, especially since Solidus trusted him.

Also Liquid was a fool. Shadow Moses was all Solidus doing, by using Ocelot to provoke Liquid. Liquid took the bait, ended up with REX destroyed and was simply awaiting the nuke to vaporize him. Whoo. Solidus had his objective destroyed and his most trusted man betray him and STILl came up with a new scheme to track down and destroy The Patriots.

Also, I believe it was revealed “In The Darkness of Shadow Moses” on MGS2 that the railgun DIDN’T EVEN WORK. Lol That’s why Solidus wanted the test data in the MO Disk that Ocelot took from Snake.
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Liquid’s ultimate plan wouldn’t work...and it was destroyed and it was all orchestrated by Solidus.

Liquid = fail.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Wow. So, Solidus was fooled by his “most trusted man.” Ocelot has played countries before so I don’t see why this should be a shock, especially since Solidus trusted him.

Also Liquid was a fool. Shadow Moses was all Solidus doing, by using Ocelot to provoke Liquid. Liquid took the bait, ended up with REX destroyed and was simply awaiting the nuke to vaporize him. Whoo. Solidus had his objective destroyed and his most trusted man betray him and STILl came up with a new scheme to track down and destroy The Patriots.

Also, I believe it was revealed “In The Darkness of Shadow Moses” on MGS2 that the railgun DIDN’T EVEN WORK. Lol That’s why Solidus wanted the test data in the MO Disk that Ocelot took from Snake.
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Liquid’s ultimate plan wouldn’t work...and it was destroyed and it was all orchestrated by Solidus.

Liquid = fail.

LOL Now this is Solidus vs Solid vs Liquid: who is smarter match?
Liquid's plans failed because of Snake, same as Solidus' failed because of Raiden and Co. Solidus wasn't just fooled by Ocelot, he was USED and manipulated like a child. In the end it was pretty clear that Liquid owned Snake, Solidus and even Ocelot, he was the only one who saw the whole picture.

Oh and Liquid = badass.

Lol, well even if it has turned to an intelligence match between the Snake's and Ocelot, we are at least finished to some degree with the old match...