The Flash (VS.) The Fantastic Four

Originally posted by Muck101
I don't really think thats always so. No one but supes could even come close to catching him, but what about Juggernaut? I just can't see flash damaging him.

He doesn't have to damage him really. A battlefield-removal will work just fine against Juggernaut. Or he could simply grab him, run, and leave Juggy in the Speed Force. Or he could run him 5 gajillion years into the future. Just saying, he's got so many options.

That's why super-speed is the greatest power, in my opinion.

Originally posted by Grimm22
considering they are prepping for Doom, not Flash and they only have 15 minutes...

Yeah the FF are screwed

What if the FF knew who the Flash was and what he could do? Do you think 15 minutes would be enough time for Reed to prepare something to counter Flash's speed? Or do you think Reed would still need more time than 15 minutes? What do the rest of you think? Could Reed whip up something in 15 minutes IF he knew it was the Flash coming and was familiar with what he could do????

Nah. Even with knowing it's Flash coming to get them, 15 minutes of prep is still NOWHERE near enough time to prepare any sort of defense or offense against Flash.

I think it is, especially when its Reed Richards getting the prep. If they know Flash is coming and get 15 minutes prep, they can stop him, the FF deal with cosmics all the time,

For someone with a Wally West Avatar and Sig, you sure are greatly underestimating Flash here. 😬

Reed's prep-time ability is being overrated. Sure, if he had more time, he could do something. But 15 minutes? What's he going to do that Flash can't just easily overcome?

Originally posted by Wally West
I think it is, especially when its Reed Richards getting the prep. If they know Flash is coming and get 15 minutes prep, they can stop him, the FF deal with cosmics all the time,

what do you think FF could come up with in 15 min? Have you ever seen Reed come up with something big in 15 min?

Reed usually has days or weeks at least to come up with his stuff. Yet people here think he can whip up ANYTHING in even less than a hour.

The fifteen minutes prep would be useless just because flash could run back in time fifteen minutes after the fifteen minutes had passed and then kill the FF.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
The fifteen minutes prep would be useless just because flash could run back in time fifteen minutes after the fifteen minutes had passed and then kill the FF.

The only thing I could think of that would really help Reed is if he just happened to have a time manipulating machine laying around, along with a handful of devices to counteract it, so he can try to neutralize some of Flash's speed. But that doesn't really stop Flash from entering the Speed Force and becoming the kinetic god like I hear he can do.

If you are only giving him 15 minutes it depends of two factors: Whatever he has in his lab (where in hell is he going to get the stuff he needs in 15 minutes?) and if he knows he is facing flash.

Reed doesnt even have to come up with something big here, just a psychic wave that goes from where they are in circles, Flash cannot detect mind attacks so his speed is a non factor, he goes down like a chump (Reed doesnt need anything cosmic killing to deal with a fast dude). THAT SAID, this is a Reed who had prep reading Flash comics or something, not knowing what he can do or his limitations, well, lets just say that I would have problems finding ways to deal with him and I know what Flash can do.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
For someone with a Wally West Avatar and Sig, you sure are greatly underestimating Flash here. 😬

Reed's prep-time ability is being overrated. Sure, if he had more time, he could do something. But 15 minutes? What's he going to do that Flash can't just easily overcome?

Reed isn't being overrated, Flash is being underrated

Flash's powers are far too complex to prep out with only 15 minutes

Originally posted by Grimm22
Reed isn't being overrated, Flash is being underrated

Flash's powers are far too complex to prep out with only 15 minutes

You basically just said what I said but with a more positive spin towards Reed. Go figure. 😛

Reed can probably think of something to take care of Flash in 15 minutes, but people need to remember that he doesn't have Majestic-level inventing speed.

I doubt 15 minutes would would be enough time for him to construct any thing from scratch unless it was a toaster or something.

Originally posted by Accel
Reed can probably think of something to take care of Flash in 15 minutes, but people need to remember that he doesn't have Majestic-level inventing speed.

I doubt 15 minutes would would be enough time for him to construct any thing from scratch unless it was a toaster or something.

QFT

Flash will drop a multiverse on the F4's domepiece.

Well without them knowing its Flash they are screwed but if they did I see many things they can do. One Sue creates a shield around the building and Flash runs into it a super speed and SPLAT! Reed uses his time machine and goes find Flash before the mind control and tells him to beat the crap out of Doom.

My guess is Flash is just well.... too fast.

Originally posted by ThePittman
Well without them knowing its Flash they are screwed but if they did I see many things they can do. One Sue creates a shield around the building and Flash runs into it a super speed and SPLAT! Reed uses his time machine and goes find Flash before the mind control and tells him to beat the crap out of Doom.

Ah, but then Flash could run back in time before Reed does. And then kill them all. Flash wins again.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Ah, but then Flash could run back in time before Reed does. And then kill them all. Flash wins again.

No no, you miss the point. As soon as Reed goes back in time, Flash goes back in time right behind him. Bam.

Or hell. As soon as Reed goes back in time, Flash's past self goes back in time. Flash has every advantage here.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
No no, you miss the point. As soon as Reed goes back in time, Flash goes back in time right behind him. Bam.

Or hell. As soon as Reed goes back in time, Flash's past self goes back in time. Flash has every advantage here.