X-Men vs. JLA

Here is the scenerio:

The X-Men are iin a fortress. JLA, 10 miles away, are coming to the fortress to overrun it and destroy the X-Men. The X-Men know that they JLA are coming so there is no advantage of surprise or time to set traps or anything. Both teams must rely on their powers alone in this fight. However, the teams can begin their attack while far away.

X-Men:

Xavier (with powers obviously)
Storm
Jean Grey (No Phoenix Force)
White Queen
Rogue (with absorption powers and
Magma
Cyclops
Nightcrawler
Wolverine
Iceman

JLA:

Superman
Wonder Woman
Flash
Green Lantern
Batman
Martain Manhunter
Aquaman
Barda
Plastic Man

Superman heat visions their fortress to slag. Unless the Iceman is the Blair Wind Iceman half the JLA members can do this solo.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Here is the scenerio:

The X-Men are iin a fortress. JLA, 10 miles away, are coming to the fortress to overrun it and destroy the X-Men. The X-Men know that they JLA are coming so there is no advantage of surprise or time to set traps or anything. Both teams must rely on their powers alone in this fight. However, the teams can begin their attack while far away.

X-Men:

Xavier (with powers obviously)
Storm
Jean Grey (No Phoenix Force)
White Queen
Rogue (with absorption powers and
Magma
Cyclops
Nightcrawler
Wolverine
Iceman

JLA:

Superman
Wonder Woman
--**[B]Flash**--
Green Lantern
Batman
Martain Manhunter
Aquaman
Barda
Plastic Man [/B]

doh

LOL poor rutog is so stupid.

Originally posted by What If...
LOL poor rutog is so stupid.

You must be one of the guys I kicked butt on in the Storm vs. Jean thread. lol.

Anywho, ignoring you, I would like to see what some people can come up with in this fight.

Alright, dude. You want something? Okay.

Flash beats the X-Men. By himself. In about 1 full second at the MOST.

Green Lantern devolves them into humans.

Cool. Everyone agrees with this? I've seen some furious debate on the internet before on match-ups like these. The PF was not involved in some of them and still there were very strong arguments on both sides.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Cool. Everyone agrees with this? I've seen some furious debate on the internet before on match-ups like these. The PF was not involved in some of them and still there were very strong arguments on both sides.

That's cool that you're trying to make fair fights. But this really is a curbstomp, and anyone who tries to make a case for the X-Men (w/o pheonix) either knows very little about comics or is biased toward Marvel so much that they can't be trusted.

Okay. How would you balance the team out to make it fair without the PF?

You'd have to put beings like the Silver Surfer and Thor to the X-Men team to even come close to balancing it out. Oh, and removing Flash. I love the Flash, but he's just unfair in most battles.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Okay. How would you balance the team out to make it fair without the PF?

They're just different-level teams. JLA are cosmic. X-Men are earth-based. It would be very difficult to make a fair fight if you wanted to keep a full roster for the JLA.

Any two of those on the JLA roster (except maybe Batman) could probably take out that team. They'd have to be well-written, but even some like Flash, MM, GL, etc. could probably solo them and telepaths are the only reason Supes couldn't.

P.S. Yeah, what Metalmanx said works too.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
That's cool that you're trying to make fair fights. But this really is a curbstomp, and anyone who tries to make a case for the X-Men (w/o pheonix) either knows very little about comics or is biased toward Marvel so much that they can't be trusted.

😐

I could make a case for them. Yes its a small case, and you all know what it would be, but hey its there!

lol. Okay. So lets make this Marvel vs. DC:

Xavier
Storm
Sersi
Photon
Iceman
Hulk
Iron Man
White Queen
Invisible Woman

vs.

Superman
Wonder Woman
Flash
Green Lantern
Batman
Martain Manhunter
Aquaman
Barda
Plastic Man

I'd say Flash would have his hands full with Photon. I don't like Thor as I think he's boring, so I added Sersi. Hulk is now on the team as well as Iron Man.

Originally posted by Rutog98
lol. Okay. So lets make this Marvel vs. DC:

Xavier
Storm
Sersi
Photon
Iceman
Hulk
Iron Man
White Queen
Invisible Woman

vs.

Superman
Wonder Woman
Flash
Green Lantern
Batman
Martain Manhunter
Aquaman
Barda
Plastic Man

I'd say Flash would have his hands full with Photon. I don't like Thor as I think he's boring, so I added Sersi. Hulk is now on the team as well as Iron Man.

Actually, the addition of Photon does help the Marvel team, but not against Flash. He's still far too fast to be stalemated by her. The Flash can still take out every single member of the Marvel team by himself.

Now, if you take the Flash out, then you have a very good match-up here, I think. 👆

Flash really needs to leave. Otherwise, at least a few are dead in the opening seconds of the fight.

Closer though....

👆

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Actually, the addition of Photon does help the Marvel team, but not against Flash. He's still far too fast to be stalemated by her. The Flash can still take out every single member of the Marvel team by himself.

Now, if you take the Flash out, then you have a very good match-up here, I think. 👆

Okay. Minus the Flash and minus Hulk to keep the team membership balanced.

Xavier
Storm
Sersi
Photon
Iceman
Iron Man
White Queen
Invisible Woman

vs.

Superman
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
Batman
Martain Manhunter
Aquaman
Barda
Plastic Man

Now you could definitely make a case for Marvel. Without analyzing it too much, I'd still give the edge to the JLA here because they still have the top 1-2 overall people in this fight (except maybe Photon)....but it's a close fight now and you'd probably get some decent discussion.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Okay. Minus the Flash and minus Hulk to keep the team membership balanced.

Xavier
Storm
Sersi
Photon
Iceman
Iron Man
White Queen
Invisible Woman

vs.

Superman
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
Batman
Martain Manhunter
Aquaman
Barda
Plastic Man

Now the only problem is that besides Iron Man, you've got no brawler on the Marvel side. Not that a brawler is necessary, but when you're up against Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Barda, well, you might need it. And well, Iron Man might as well be tickling them if he tries to actually confront any of them physically.

But yes, this is a much closer fight now. Photon could potentially do a lot of damage to the DC side. Iceman has more of a chance now, too, now that Flash is gone.

I correct myself. The SECOND problem with this is that the DC still GREATLY overpowers the Marvel team in terms of speed. If everyone is fighting to the best of their ability here, then DC still wins it. Flash may have been the fastest, but the others are still HELLA fast.

Kudos on the effort though.

Sue, Xavier, Emma and Storm still get speedblitzed. Batman dies. JLA still win.