BatGirl/Lady Shiva/Lashina vs. Captain America/Black Panther/Iron Fist

Originally posted by marvelprince

From what I can remember its mostly been her whips that have proven harmful.

And yet she can get KO'ed by street levelers. Her time in the Suicide Squad wasn't very impressive imo

Batman has dodged both and I don't see him moving at mach speeds

I know they fought but it was a hand-to-hand fight? I know she has high durability but her strength was never anything to write home about

She's been one shotted to and downed by ordinary bullets. She doesn't impress me much

She's taken a full on Superman punch? Scans please

I disagree

You're referencing the Suicide Squad run as the Duchess. She was severely depowered and stripped of many of her abilities via a Grandfather Box. Bernadeth was responsible for that.

When she was revived, she regained her former strength.

Your arguement is based on a depowered, amensiac Duchess.

I on the other hand am talking about a non-PIS Lashina who's downed Supergirl, Superboy, and has sparred with DC's heavyweights.

AGAIN, she's a New God. By default of her birth, she's a heavyweight much like an Asgardian or Olympian.

I mean, let's think, here. Why the hell would Darkseid entrust his Fatal Furies to a slightly-above human attribute woman with a penchant for whips?

Answer: He didn't. Lashina, Mad Harriet, etc. all possess standard New God attributes....which FAR outclasses any of the guys...

Right. Duchess. Didn't know she was depowered during that arc. Well then I stand corrected

Originally posted by Metalmanx
When did he beat Black Panther? I thought BP beat him?

And you're really using the Spider-Man example? 😬

Cap has never lost to t'challa, he beat him in battle of the the champions, and beat him in the original run of the avengers.

And as for cap fighting spidey, cap and spidey have come to blows on 3 different occasions, each time with spiderman ending up on his back.

Originally posted by King KAM
nope BP's Father got the drop on a YOUNG captain america, and even credited it simply to the fact that cap was young.

Cap has never lost to t'challa, he beat him in battle of the the champions, and beat him in the original run of the avengers.

And as for cap fighting spidey, cap and spidey have come to blows on 3 different occasions, each time with spiderman ending up on his back.

"the drop"? Didn't T'Chaka and Cap fight straight-up? And T'Chaka beat him. T'Challa is better than T'Chaka.

T'Challa would defeat Cap in a straight-up fight.

Originally posted by King KAM
And as for cap fighting spidey, cap and spidey have come to blows on 3 different occasions, each time with spiderman ending up on his back.

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Originally posted by Metalmanx
"the drop"? Didn't T'Chaka and Cap fight straight-up? And T'Chaka beat him. T'Challa is better than T'Chaka.

T'Challa would defeat Cap in a straight-up fight.

Now as for T'Challa beating Cap, Cap has already beat him both times they fought, so whatever you "think" doesnt matter metal man. And your a known Cap doubter so what you say doesnt matter, you once said Bishop was a better h2h combatant.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
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Originally posted by King KAM
im pretty sure Captain America wasnt sure what he was going up against then, considering T'chaka said it himself THAT HE ONLY WON BECAUSE CAPTAIN AMERICA WAS YOUNG!

Now as for T'Challa beating Cap, Cap has already beat him both times they fought, so whatever you "think" doesnt matter metal man. And your a known Cap doubter so what you say doesnt matter, you once said Bishop was a better h2h combatant. once again, make all the faces you want, but facts is facts, the first time they fought, Cap hit spidey so hard spidey asked if cap carried pint size A bombs in his gloves, the second time the fought, cap uppercutted spidey so hard he flew, and the third time, cap tagged spiderman at will, Spideys only chance was the iron suit, which he no longer has.

Is that why I argue for Cap against Wolverine? Because I'm a Cap doubter?

Can you post scans of the Cap/BP fights? I'm just curious to see how they turned out.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Is that why I argue for Cap against Wolverine? Because I'm a Cap doubter?

Can you post scans of the Cap/BP fights? I'm just curious to see how they turned out.

perhaps you hate logan even more than cap? 😛

guys win

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Is that why I argue for Cap against Wolverine? Because I'm a Cap doubter?

Can you post scans of the Cap/BP fights? I'm just curious to see how they turned out.

dont play dumb, you have seen all these scans, you simply want me to waste my time going and getting all of them, well no. I told u were you can find em. so find em.

Originally posted by masterbruce
perhaps you hate logan even more than cap? 😛

Originally posted by King KAM
Look in the BP respect thread for one of them, read the avengers vol.1 essential for the other, and read the tournament of champions for the other(or the Cap respect thread)

dont play dumb, you have seen all these scans, you simply want me to waste my time going and getting all of them, well no. I told u were you can find em. so find em.
bingo

Sigh. If I had already seen them, I wouldn't be asking you, smartass. I don't get my kicks from making people waste their time. Why have you been more douchey than usual lately?

So there are three different instances then? I'll try to find them. Except I don't know how to find the Avengers Vol. 1 essential.

And I don't hate either Cap or Wolverine. I like them both a lot actually.

I'd say the level of doucheness is about the same as always.

Girls win, mainly because of Lashina.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'd say the level of doucheness is about the same as always.

Girls win, mainly because of Lashina.

Boys win...BP tips the scales in the boy's favor...

Originally posted by yugotank
Boys win...BP tips the scales in the boy's favor...

With the Iron Fist on the team, T'Challa ain't tipping shit.

Batgirl and Shiva both'd go down to any of team 2.

I dunno about Lashina, though.

bumprav

LOL.

I was about to pass this thread until I saw Lashina on the list.

Someone must hate the guy side quite a bit.

Lashina beats all of them at the same time .....then after killing the men she takes the women to Ma in Apokolips.