Man kills baby over Xbox 360

Originally posted by Robtard
Though I do agree, the facts remain that the guy admitted to hitting his child hard enough to kill her because he thought she had broken his Xbox. Lets add a few possible scenario changes and see if that makes it any more excusable/understandable.

1) He was drunk/on drugs - Nope
2) His father abused him as a child - Nope
3) It really wasn't his daughter, his wife had an affair - Nope
4) He was getting his ass kicked on-line by a 10 ten old who was simultaneously insulting him over the headset - Nope

- he gets executed

Originally posted by Robtard
Though I do agree, the facts remain that the guy admitted to hitting his child hard enough to kill her because he thought she had broken his Xbox. Lets add a few possible scenario changes and see if that makes it any more excusable/understandable.

1) He was drunk/on drugs - Nope
2) His father abused him as a child - Nope
3) It really wasn't his daughter, his wife had an affair - Nope
4) He was getting his ass kicked on-line by a 10 ten old who was simultaneously insulting him over the headset - Nope

Originally posted by Bardock42
Lets add a few punishments that won't make anything better for anyone:

- he gets executed

WRONG! A few possible outcomes that may make it better if he were to get executed, though it is highly unlikely that he will.

1) The family of the child feels a sense of justice/closure.
2) Taxpayers will have one less murderer to shelter, feed, provide medical care for and guard over.
3) He'll never (as in ever) be able to "snap" and kill someone else over something as trivial as a video game.

Originally posted by Robtard
WRONG! A few possible outcomes that may make it better if he were to get executed, though it is highly unlikely that he will.

1) The family of the child feels a sense of justice/closure.
2) Taxpayers will have one less murderer to shelter, feed, provide medical care for and guard over.
3) He'll never (as in ever) be able to "snap" and kill someone else over something as trivial as a video game.

Yeah, true. I meant won't make anything better for me...obviously.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, true. I meant won't make anything better for me...obviously.

No German, you said "anyone", but anyhow...

Wouldn't it be funny as hell though if this guy gets out of jail only after a few years and ends up moving to Germany, becoming your next door neighbor and kills you over another video game induced "snap"? Hypothetically speaking of course.

Originally posted by Robtard
No German, you said "anyone", but anyhow...

Wouldn't it be funny as hell though if this guy gets out of jail only after a few years and ends up moving to Germany, becoming your next door neighbor and kills you over another video game induced "snap"? Hypothetically speaking of course.

Of course I said that. I am German. Where the hell have you been the last 60 years?

Objectively speaking...that would be the most ****ing hilarious thing that ever happened. Ever.

Man, you have great sense of humor.

Originally posted by Grinning Goku
Man, you have great sense of humor.

Thanks, I dig it.

👆

You guys are so ****ing not funny.

Originally posted by Robtard
1) The family of the child feels a sense of justice/closure.

irrelevant to the law. its not about satisfaction for anyone. justice/closure in this sense are kind gentle euphamisms for bloodlust and revenge

Originally posted by Robtard
2) Taxpayers will have one less murderer to shelter, feed, provide medical care for and guard over.

i have yet to see reliable figures which support the tax claim, especially since the process of appealing as well as all the time it takes to follow through seems to be just as expensive if not more. but lets be honest here, money is the last thing on the mind of anyone supporting the death penalty. i have yet to hear anyone say "its a shame, and i hate the hypocritical idea of killing a killer, but look at the cost to mr. and mrs. john q taxpayer".

Originally posted by Robtard
3) He'll never (as in ever) be able to "snap" and kill someone else over something as trivial as a video game.

same as if he's locked up for life. the public peace is preserved and nobody else is killed.

Originally posted by silver_tears
You guys are so ****ing not funny.

correct. funny is an understatement. we are simply ****ing hilarious

Originally posted by silver_tears
You guys are so ****ing not funny.

And you are ugly.

See? Lies hurt people. So don't do it.

Wait, did someone object to the idea of the man getting life in prison?

Originally posted by BackFire
Wait, did someone object to the idea of the man getting life in prison?

some where up there, yeah...

on a serious note...

from what i've read of this article, it sounds like this was more than just snapping... the guy seemed like an abusive pr*ck who liked to beat on the people around him...

what i would do is:

send him to prison, and make sure every single solitary inmate knows that he's a baby killer... see how well he does then...

failing that, cut off his hands... no more xbox for him (i know it wasnt why he killed the child, but f*ck him, make him suffer).

and before anyone says thats inhumane, the man beat a child to death, for nothing, not a god-damned thing...

Originally posted by pr1983
some where up there, yeah...

on a serious note...

from what i've read of this article, it sounds like this was more than just snapping... the guy seemed like an abusive pr*ck who liked to beat on the people around him...

what i would do is:

send him to prison, and make sure every single solitary inmate knows that he's a baby killer... see how well he does then...

failing that, cut off his hands... no more xbox for him (i know it wasnt why he killed the child, but f*ck him, make him suffer).

and before anyone says thats inhumane, the man beat a child to death, for nothing, not a god-damned thing...

Well, I dunno. Just. I dunno.

Originally posted by Bardock42
So you would basically take pleasure in hurting him as bad as you can?

Well, I dunno. Just. I dunno.

I don't see how there's any pleasure for anyone (myself included) in it...

i just think that the sentence should reflect the crime... 😬

Originally posted by pr1983
I don't see how there's any pleasure for anyone (myself included) in it...

i just think that the sentence should reflect the crime... 😬

That is idiotic though. How is a society any different if it just punishes criminals the same way they did their crimes?

Death Penalty or not that asswipe needs to be punish....Period!

Originally posted by PVS
irrelevant to the law. its not about satisfaction for anyone. justice/closure in this sense are kind gentle euphamisms for bloodlust and revenge

i have yet to see reliable figures which support the tax claim, especially since the process of appealing as well as all the time it takes to follow through seems to be just as expensive if not more. but lets be honest here, money is the last thing on the mind of anyone supporting the death penalty. i have yet to hear anyone say "its a shame, and i hate the hypocritical idea of killing a killer, but look at the cost to mr. and mrs. john q taxpayer".

same as if he's locked up for life. the public peace is preserved and nobody else is killed.

correct. funny is an understatement. we are simply ****ing hilarious

I did start the post under the guise of "possible" and "may", not it will.

Satisfaction and Justice go hand in hand almost. If I out of negligence destroy your X-Box, you can sue me and receive money to compensate you for your lose (a.k.a. satisfaction).

I honestly do not know which is more expensive, paying for the court/execution fees or housing, feeding, guarding and providing medical care for someone for 50-80+ years so I guess it falls down to, do "you" feel better about paying to kill a murderer or pay to keep them locked up forever. It cost money either way, but we do have a finite amount of space where we can store these people.

Yes and no, murders happen in prison frequently. Also, a murderer who knows he can never receive parole and also knows he can never be executed no matter what he does is an extremely dangerous person.

and yes, hilarious is the correct word.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That is idiotic though. How is a society any different if it just punishes criminals the same way they did their crimes?

maybe the hand thing was a bit extreme, but otherwise, i don't see why someone who does that kind of sh*t deserves sympathy from anyone... and the harsher the sentence, the more of a deterrent its gonna be... at the very least that guy should spend the rest of his life in a cell with no luxuries whatsoever...

(there are prisons in ireland where people can have stuff like mobile phones, sattelite (sp?) tv and even, yes, games consoles)