Wonderman vs. Immortal Hercules

Started by Starhawk4 pages

Atlas wasnt trying to fight him he was trying to reason with him.

even atlas admit that hercules was more powerful than him and no the thunderbolts were fighting songbird even said that her best attack were not working and atlas also said that he was fighting to stop a friends her getting hurt maybe you should read it again

No I read it, and for 90% of the battle they were only trying to reason with him and when they were fighting they weren't trying to really hurt him.

Perhaps you need to read it again.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Okay, Atlas beat Herc down so bad he gave him brain damage, Wonderman beats the crap out of Atlas all the time.

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You forgot to mention that Goliath (aka Atlas) had backup, and that Hercules was drugged and drunk.

Originally posted by Starhawk
No I read it, and for 90% of the battle they were only trying to reason with him and when they were fighting they weren't trying to really hurt him.

Perhaps you need to read it again.

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So, Hawkeye was worried with them pulling back?

Moonstone was lying when she said they wer giving it all they had?

Atlas trying to reason with him its one think, saying all Thunderbolts ganged up on a guy and the point was holding back its another. Doesnt make sense.

Lastly Atlas, conceads that Herc is stronger. That doesnt mean he couldnt figth him, but it means Herc edges him out. At least until a new match happens.

Thanks to the RESPEK forum of SHC for the scans.

Wonder-man is much stronger then atlas. Thor has had problems with WOnder-man.

And why wouldnt he? They are both top tiers.

Thor is the stronger of the two, tho. Simon has admited such.

Hercules.
The son of Zeus at full power, could only be damaged within the Olympian dimension.Outside from that he was above any sort of injury, only a godly like being could damage him, and his life force would anyway heal the damage at tremendous speed.

and hercules is stronger than wonderman, he is also more durable, and has superior reflexes and has minor superspeed so wonderman cannot speedblitz him hercules edge wonderman in a lot of places, and don't forget he is invulnerable to physical attack, extreme temperature freeze and heat as well as energy attack

Originally posted by K3VIL
Hercules.
The son of Zeus at full power, could only be damaged within the Olympian dimension.Outside from that he was above any sort of injury, only a godly like being could damage him, and his life force would anyway heal the damage at tremendous speed.

Thats a bit of "handbook powerset"...he has ben hurt by lesser and higher beings, in and outside the Olympian dimension. Like everyone else.

Originally posted by hunbu04
and hercules is stronger than wonderman

Correct.

Originally posted by hunbu04
he is also more durable,

Wonder man tends to have a higher durability against projectiles and the type, and Hercules tends to have a higher damage soak ability.

Originally posted by hunbu04
so wonderman cannot speedblitz him hercules edge wonderman in a lot of places

Wonder Man is faster for sure, at least as far as *straigth flying/running speed* goes. Combat speed? Not so. At least i dont recall him ever doing it, wich seems to imply that he doesnt have both as comparable.

Originally posted by hunbu04
and don't forget he is invulnerable to physical attack, extreme temperature freeze and heat as well as energy attack

If Surtor blasts Hercules, you can belive hes going to feel it. Ditto to Firelord. And those are "heat".

He can feel all those, depending if the attack is powerful enough for his level. This happens with every single character.

Since when does Hercules compare at ALL to Surtur?

Im sorry but Thor has whipped Herc and in his Inonic form he had a hard time dealing with Wondr-man

In which issue did thor beat hercules and if you r going to gave wonderman his most powerful form than while not also give hercules a power up like the version of hercules that almost killed the high evolutionaryin the Evolutionary War when hercules evolved to a level beyond his godhood in which he was able to fire powerful cosmic energy from his eyes and hands

Originally posted by Starhawk
Since when does Hercules compare at ALL to Surtur?

Im sorry but Thor has whipped Herc and in his Inonic form he had a hard time dealing with Wondr-man

dude you lost. and heres why.

Your first argument, was that Herc was beat by Atlas, and then someone pointed out that Hercules was drugged and jumped. But then they said herc came back and crushed atlas, and the whole team for a matter of fact. You said they didnt, and that they werent trying nor was Atlas fighting back.

Then it was proved that they were fighting back, and that Hercules dominated Atlas while atlas was trying to beat him.

So then YOU changed your argument from the Atlas thing to....

Originally posted by Starhawk
Wonder-man is much stronger then atlas. Thor has had problems with WOnder-man.
right there you PwNed yourself.

Originally posted by hunbu04
In which issue did thor beat hercules and if you r going to gave wonderman his most powerful form than while not also give hercules a power up like the version of hercules that almost killed the high evolutionaryin the Evolutionary War when hercules evolved to a level beyond his godhood in which he was able to fire powerful cosmic energy from his eyes and hands

Because Wonderman's Ionic form is something he can turn off and on as he wishes, Herc cannot.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Since when does Hercules compare at ALL to Surtur?

Im sorry but Thor has whipped Herc and in his Inonic form he had a hard time dealing with Wondr-man


And who said he was comparable? Im showing to someone why the handbooks arent reliable with what happens in the comics. I also used the Firelord as an example and its more down to Earth than Surtur.

Your Herc/Thor example to illustrate how Herc would stand less of a chance against WM, arent accurate either. All theyr tussles wer equalish and pretty much stalemates.

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The Prince of Power have owned him in Incredible Hercules, no?

With one shot, when he lost his mind.

He also handled him in Civil War pretty well. That scan does show that under some more popular years, he is capable of looking equal, but that has been, how many years now?

In incredible hercules, wm was trying to calm herc down. though he fought back, it was not 100% since he knows he can take the punishment.

yeah, i know you are trying to give him more credit than he deserves as blacklash for the way he has been written, but i saw him begging Hercules to stop before he used the quinjet, wich isent the same as not figthing back, when the other went marbles.

Before that? Sure. He wasent going for real. But then again neither was Hercules.

Rigth now, its nearly impossible to consider WM being able to give these guys an equal tussle.