Darth Zannah vs. DE Sidious (Read first post)

Let's say that Darth Zannah gets to her full potential, and takes on DE Sidious in a force fight. This is purely speculation, but who takes it?

B4 you guys post, you might not know too much about Darth Zannah, so I'll post a few feats, now bare in mind, this is all when she's around eight years old, and she does it all instinctively, with no training whatsoever. Having Darth Bane train her would only make her much much much more powerful.

1. http://swtimeline.ru/?comics=8&page=089 .
Here, it's revealed she protected herself and Laa from the major storm attack produced by Bane and 26 other sith lords, which had the capabilities to destroy a whole forest, and everybody (which included powerful jedi) and everything (which included heavy ass ships) in its path.

2. http://swtimeline.ru/?comics=8&page=096 .

Here, she kinda levitates/floats. Pretty impressive I'd say, and while some people will argue that she's just standing on the rock, it's made pretty clear by looking at the scenery that the rock underneath her feet is actually far far below her, and given her hand motion and her facial expression, it's pretty clear she's using the force.

3. http://swtimeline.ru/?comics=8&page=106
http://swtimeline.ru/?comics=8&page=107 .

Here, she instantly kills two jedi, who must have been pretty powerful given how long they'd survived the war for, but she just instantly chokes them, in pure rage, she doesn't even have to focus the attack. This is damn impressive, a feat worthy of a true sith lord, let alone an untrained 8 year old girl.

4. http://swtimeline.ru/?comics=8&page=131 .

Here, she is able to blow up Darovit's hand, just by looking at him, and Darovit has already proven himself damn strong for his age, what with resisting the thought bomb, and being able to take on sith warriors after like zero experience with lightsaber.

Also, here (http://swtimeline.ru/?comics=8&page=090), it's revealed that she does actually become a powerful dark jedi, as prophesied by Laa. And in the game, SW Galaxies, as well as the novel based on the game Star Wars Galaxies: the ruins of Dantooine, as well as the short story The Story of General Grievous: Lord of War, she is stated to have become a master of the saberstaff, on that is powered not by a crystal, but by Darth Bane's heart, and one that later comes into General Grievous' possession.

^Not that the above paragraph is relevant, as this is a pure force battle, and is working under the assertion that Darth Zannah does actually get to her full potential, I was just pointing out that she does become much more powerful, and does become a master swordsman.

1. We know very little about Zannah, if anything.
2. Sidious is above and beyond any sith lord by DE.

Yeah, i agree wit darth sexy, he have to few knowledge about her. Anyway, i must say she was probably one of the strongest female sith ever, seeing what he did without no kind of training in the force.

For #3, it's prety obvious Bane killed those Jedi. His eyes were glowing for a reason.

Blue hefner, it's pretty obvious that was zannah who killed the jedis... She even said to bane the she was "a killer too" after kill them... Also, it was her that blasted his cousin's arm. We see her concentrating before his arm balst and Bane even asked her why she didn't kill him...

Exactly, and it's pretty much confirmed at the end of PoD. And Bane's eyes are pretty much always glowing.

Hmm, seing how strong Zannah was just as a child I'd assume that if she reached her FP she could take DE Sidious.

Now that I think about it, and how she defended against that surge of teh "uber" lightning:

Zannah was a mother****ing juggernaught! If she honed that talent, hells would freeze over.

Possibly. At full potential, she could take Sids down. Seeing as we have no idea how powerful she is, its too much speculation unfortunately. But I would go with a yes,

Being able to defend against something that Sids in his prime could produce, and yet being only 4 years (or so) of age, is incredible.

Originally posted by zephiel7
Now that I think about it, and how she defended against that surge of teh "uber" lightning:

Zannah was a mother****ing juggernaught!

Possibly. At full potential, she could take Sids down. Seeing as we have no idea how powerful she is, its too much speculation unfortunately.

DE Sidious is far more powerful.

Darth Zannah would be powerful but is not included in the Elite Category of DLOTS yet.

When her story will be complete, only then we can properly judge her.

I just can't wait for some more Bane books, he and Zannah will kick butt.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I was no expecting this kind of answer from you?

DE Sidious is far more powerful.

Darth Zannah would be powerful but is not included in the Elite Category of DLOTS.

This is a speculation thread about Zannah's potential. Not her current state of power. It's a no brainer that Sidious'd wipe his ass with her right now, but this topic regards her potential.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I was no expecting this kind of answer from you?

DE Sidious is far more powerful.

Darth Zannah would be powerful but is not included in the Elite Category of DLOTS.

Huh? Well, I gave you that type of answer dude.

I was saying that at "full potential" she could probably take down Sidious without much effort. At something like 1/100th potential, she has the ability to block a force storm that is infact greater than anything Sidious in his prime could produce.

Of course, as a child, she could not: too little refined potential and does not even know how to handle a god damned lightsaber blade. Sidious could probably trick her with a lollypop and remove her from the fight before anything happens.

I am just saying Zannah has the potential to be an incredible force user, perhaps even dwarfing Sidious.

Originally posted by Gideon
This is a speculation thread about Zannah's potential. Not her current state of power. It's a no brainer that Sidious'd wipe his ass with her right now, but this topic regards her potential.

We don't know much about her or do we?

DE Sidious is canonically the most powerful Sith Lord in history.

Originally posted by zephiel7
Huh? Well, I gave you that type of answer dude.

I was saying that at "full potential" she could probably take down Sidious without much effort. At something like 1/100th potential, she has the ability to block a force storm that is infact greater than anything Sidious in his prime could produce.

Of course, as a child, she could not: too little refined potential and does not even know how to handle a god damned lightsaber blade. Sidious could probably trick her with a lollypop and remove her from the fight before anything happens.

I am just saying Zannah has the potential to be an incredible force user, dwarfing Sidious.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This is waste then.

We don't know much about her or do we?

DE Sidious is canonically the most powerful Sith Lord in history.

I don't know about you, but arguing in a Star Wars versus forum should theoretically be a waste of time 😛. It is, like anything else in SW, for fun.

Here is a small profile of Zannah!

Link: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Zannah

Hate to break it to you, LeGenD, but this all comes down to speculation. I can't sit here and say that DE Sidious would ultimately take down Boba Fett in a fight to the death; Zephiel here can't sit and say that Bane could take Coleman Trebor in a lightsaber duel. It all comes down to what is "on paper". On paper, certain characters possess more abilities than others, and on a greater scale.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I would surely love to see that what Zannah has in store for us, but I doubt that she can surpass Sidious in power and prove G-Canon as False.

Things are subject to being retconned. A lot of things in comic books are retconned all the time. Star Wars canon is also subject to being retconned.

That matter aside, I haven't really seen quotes definitevely proving Sidious THE strongest anyways. There are some quotes, many of which are unsupported and are whatmore vague with what the reader can interpret as being power.

Do not get me wrong. Sidious has plenty of proof showing that he is the strongest (wormholes anyone?), but the greatness of the EU is that much of it is open to subjectivity. Many sith lords have proof indicating that they are the strongest. Based on your opinion, you can interpret whichever Sith Lord is strongest or greatest.

Bane was able to nudge a moon. Kun was able to send unlimited volleys of energy that amplified per each "pulse" of his hatred. Sidious was able to ravage fleets with his force storm, although it was mentioned he could not control the greater versions of it. Wallace even mentioned that "power charts" would never be published, showing the ambiguity of comparing these things.

Dark Empire has "biographies" at the end of each issue that help give out more information. I think there is a section devoted to the Force Storm and Emperor Palpatine, and it makes it quite clear that Sidious can control his Force Storms. His control, however, isn't perfect - and by that, I mean, when he is in the presence of an extremely powerful collection of Light side activity (Luke, Leia, Anakin), his control can be reduced and severed. And they did that by cutting him off from the Force.

So, short of a third party whose power far, far outstrips his, there's nothing to say that he can't control his Storms fine.

Originally posted by Gideon
Dark Empire has "biographies" at the end of each issue that help give out more information. I think there is a section devoted to the Force Storm and Emperor Palpatine, and it makes it quite clear that Sidious can control his Force Storms. His control, however, isn't perfect - and by that, I mean, when he is in the presence of an extremely powerful collection of Light side activity (Luke, Leia, Anakin), his control can be reduced and severed. And they did that by cutting him off from the Force.

So, short of a third party whose power far, far outstrips his, there's nothing to say that he can't control his Storms fine.

Just a question Escape. By control do you mean the storm can't hurt him? Because that sounds kinda wierd. I mean a storm of energy that rips through spacetime effects your anemies around you, but doesn't turn you into pudding?

Hell, if he were on a ship and decided to use the attack; at the very least the ship would be blown to pieces and annihialate Palpatine in the process. If Palps is fine with suicide, then that might explain the case though...