Most Dagerous Country In The World..

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
Did I say "all" anywhere in my post? If you're going to call someone out, understand what it is they are saying.

Nope, you said

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
You think the U.S. is just as dangerous as countries going through civil war?

If you're going to say something, make sure you express yourself clearly so that you can be understood.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
Iraq and several countries in Africa are going through civil war. You just compared the United States to those countries.

And several of the countries in the list are NOT going through civil war. I did not compare the US to the countries going through civil war. My point was that it is a dangerous country to live in or travel to and so should be in the list. I believe this is the 5th of 6th time I have said this. Hopefully you will not need me to draw you a picture 🙂

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
How disgustingly ironic.

My friend, you are also apparently impervious to sarcasm. Very very sad 🙁

Originally posted by Gregory
And the CIA isn't commenting on the quality of life of the people below the poverty line. You're just embarrassing yourself, kid.

Those links regarding the poverty status of Indonesia and the US were a direct response to someone mentioning that the most dangerous countries are the ones that are poor. I thought that would be obvious since I was quoting the person.

Also, I am answering comments with facts and logical information. You, my beautiful opponents are answering me with simple statements and insults 🙂

Originally posted by botankus
I thought it was obvious that when someone uses the number 99%, 99.9%, or 99.99%, they are more concerned with proving a point from common sense than providing statistical data and basing their opinion on it.

Dunno, it should have been obvious, but then again, I didn't use statistics to clarify that.

Common sense = great and wonderful. Statistics has debunked the point that "common sense" was making. 🙂

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Those links regarding the poverty status of Indonesia and the US were a direct response to someone mentioning that the most dangerous countries are the ones that are poor. I thought that would be obvious since I was quoting the person.

Also, I am answering comments with facts and logical information. You, my beautiful opponents are answering me with simple statements and insults 🙂

There is nothing logical about what you are saying. Poverty isn't equal across the board. That is a fact.

A poor family in the U.K. or the U.S. is generally far better off than a poor family in Somalia or India.

A poor family in a 3rd world country generally doesn't have access to electricity or indoor plumbing while a poor family in America has both. See the difference?

I'm done with this dude. He can go back to thinking that waking up in America resembles a playing level in Ghost Recon. Obviously nothing will convince him otherwise.

Sandman, Greg, and Robby, you all had good points. Later.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Quite that better off" in what respects? In respects to this thread, yes, it is "quite the better off" as it is a safe country to travel to.

What does the CIA have anything to do with the thread? You compared poverty rates between a 3rd world country and the U.S. on the notion that 'poor is poor', I showed you the error of your ways. Poor in one country is far different than poor in another. A poor man in America is far less likely to mug a tourist for his camera than a poor man in India might. Why you ask? Because a poor man in Colorado has a far higher standard of living than a poor man in Calcutta generally speaking.

Actually, the facts destroy your points. If America was an unsafe country to trave to, I would say "America is an unsafe country to travel to".

"quite that better off" in respects to the poverty rate. I was hoping that would be obvious. The US is a safe country to travel to is it? No tourists in the US have had anything bad happen to them have they? Or do you mean "It's less likely you would be mugged, beaten, raped or killed than if you go to one of those horrible poor countries" ? Mind you, I am asking, not SAYING that's what you mean.

The CIA is the source of the information both for the US and for Indonesia that I presented earlier. That is what they have to do with the thread. You did not debunk the argument that the principles of "poverty" are different, since those statistics were both made by the same institution, which happens to be the CIA.

Aaah, well if you don't say that America is unsafe, then it is definitely safe 👆 😂

Originally posted by botankus
I'm done with this dude. He can go back to thinking that waking up in America resembles a playing level in Ghost Recon. Obviously nothing will convince him otherwise.

Sandman, Greg, and Robby, you all had good points. Later.

Wow....I find it really really amusing that you guys simply will not get the point. Here it is, one final time. I have been saying this for 4 pages now. I am not saying that the US is a horrible dangerous place, simply that it does have a place in a list of countries that are dangerous to travel to or live in.

This whole debate exists because you guys will not evolve past the point of "But America is kewl!!!!111oneone and there's no danger here, nope sir, no danger. It's dem damn poor folk who's kidnappin an killin people in them countries in Asia".

As mentioned, I do not believe the US is the most dangerous country to live in or anything like that. I will re-place the post I placed on the first page of this thread. Perhaps you will READ it, not just LOOK at it, and understand my point:

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
😛 Funny thing is I've been to Indonesia and I can tell you I feel a lot safer walking around in Indonesia than I would feel getting on a bus in Belfast or taking the tube in London or visiting someone in a skyscraper in NY

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
"quite that better off" in respects to the poverty rate. I was hoping that would be obvious. The US is a safe country to travel to is it? No tourists in the US have had anything bad happen to them have they? Or do you mean "It's less likely you would be mugged, beaten, raped or killed than if you go to one of those horrible poor countries" ? Mind you, I am asking, not SAYING that's what you mean.

The CIA is the source of the information both for the US and for Indonesia that I presented earlier. That is what they have to do with the thread. You did not debunk the argument that the principles of "poverty" are different, since those statistics were both made by the same institution, which happens to be the CIA.

Aaah, well if you don't say that America is unsafe, then it is definitely safe 👆 😂

You're acting like a clown... a fact you need to let sink in:

Fun Fact) All countries and I mean ALL countries have had tourist killed, murdered, raped, robed etc.

Yes, it is far less likely that a tourist will be mugged or murdered in America than in a 3rd world country, that is exactly what I am saying. And yes, it is possible for a tourist to travel to both Calcutta and New York in the same year and have nothing happen to him in Calcutta but he gets mugged in New York. But generally speaking, Calcutta is more dangerous as it pertains to the thread.

No, I am saying that America is a safe place to travel as the statistics back up this claim. Like I said, stop watching "Boys N the Hood", the majority of America isn't a gangland where thugs are shooting wildly.

Oooh, haven't had one of these in a while.

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Nope, you said

If you're going to say something, make sure you express yourself clearly so that you can be understood.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to the mentally impaired. I'll speak to you like you are 6 years old next time.

I also like how you didn't answer the question and instead attacked it because you couldn't understand it.

And several of the countries in the list are NOT going through civil war. I did not compare the US to the countries going through civil war. My point was that it is a dangerous country to live in or travel to and so should be in the list. I believe this is the 5th of 6th time I have said this. Hopefully you will not need me to draw you a picture 🙂

I wasn't talking about those countries, although if I pull some crime stats for you, all of them will be higher than the United States.

The United States is a stable first world country, putting it in league with third world countries and countries going through war is, simply put, idiotic.

My friend, you are also apparently impervious to sarcasm. Very very sad 🙁 [/B]

Hypocrisy and sarcasm are not mutually exclusive.

Try another insult, maybe when you read up on the English language.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're acting like a clown... a fact you need to let sink in:

Fun Fact) All countries and I mean [B]ALL countries have had tourist killed, murdered, raped, robed etc.

Yes, it is far less likely that a tourist will be mugged or murdered in America than in a 3rd world country. That is exactly what I am saying. Yes, it is possible for a tourist to travel to both Calcutta and New York in the same year and have nothing happen to him in Calcutta but he gets mugged in New York. But generally speaking, Calcutta is more dangerous as it pertains to the thread.

No, I am saying that America is a safe place to travel as the statistics back up this claim. Like I said, stop watching "Boys N the Hood", the majority of America isn't a gangland where thugs are shooting wildly. [/B]

Wow, great post 👆

The best part is the last paragraph. First of all, I have no idea what "Boys N the Hood" is. I have provided several statistics and actual facts earlier in the thread. You mention "as the statistics back up this claim". Please provide me with the statistics. 🙂

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Wow, great post 👆

The best part is the last paragraph. First of all, I have no idea what "Boys N the Hood" is. I have provided several statistics and actual facts earlier in the thread. You mention "as the statistics back up this claim". Please provide me with the statistics. 🙂

It was a great post, it blew your next clownshoe tactic of "tourist have been killed, so therefore America is unsafe!" rant I suspect you were about to unleash.

Your statistics are pointless. Who cares that Indonesia only has a 4% greater rate of poverty compared with America. I have explained and re-explaiend that poverty levels are not equal across the board.

What statistics would you like? Percentage of tourist that were maliciously harmed in America, or the fact that America has never been on any other countries list as a "Red Zone" for tourist? Shit, even terrorist feel safe coming here.

You have provided exactly two statistic: Indonesia's poverty rate, and America's population distribution. How you imagine either of those supports your argument is beyond me.

You've also said that North Carolina is more dangerous then Afghanistan.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
Oooh, haven't had one of these in a while.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to the mentally impaired. I'll speak to you like you are 6 years old next time.
I wasn't talking about those countries, although if I pull some crime stats for you, all of them will be higher than the United States.
The United States is a stable first world country, putting it in league with third world countries and countries going through war is, simply put, idiotic.
Hypocrisy and sarcasm are not mutually exclusive.
Try another insult, maybe when you read up on the English language.

Petty insults do nothing except show that you are unable of coming up with a witty response 🙁 . If you would use the English language properly, misunderstandings like the previous one would not occur.

You mentioned comparing the US to the countries going through civil war is stupid. The discussion was about the list in the OP. I was comparing the US to the countries in that list. Not all the countries in that list are going through civil war. Again, your wording was incorrect which led to another misunderstanding.

We are discussing certain aspects of those countries, not comparing things like industrial power and such, so comparing a first world country to a third world country is not idiotic. Your reasoning however on the other hand...well....

Please let me explain as obviously you are hurting yourself trying to understand. You initially said "if you honestly believe that the USA is one of the most dangerous countries in the world, you're a clown." That was not only a misinterpretation, but also an assumption. I replied with a "misinterpretation" and "assumption" of my own to show you the error of your ways. That is Sarcasm, not hypocrisy 🙂

Originally posted by Gregory
You have provided exactly two statistic: Indonesia's poverty rate, and America's population distribution. How you imagine either of those supports your argument is beyond me.

You've also said that North Carolina is safer then Afghanistan.

One of which is incorrect, seeing that as of Tuesday October 18th 2006, America passed 300 million. We aren't near 296 Million people anymore.

Originally posted by Robtard
It was a great post, it blew your next clownshoe tactic of "tourist have been killed, so therefore America is unsafe!" rant I suspect you were about to unleash.

Your statistics are pointless. Who cares that Indonesia only has a 4% greater rate of poverty compared with America. I have explained and re-explaiend that poverty levels are not equal across the board.

What statistics would you like? Percentage of tourist that were maliciously harmed in America, or the fact that America has never been on any other countries list as a "Red Zone" for tourist? Shit, even terrorist feel safe coming here.

Assuming what I am about to say is a tricky thing and I'm not sure if you can handle it 🙂 Also please note my posts have been clear, logical, to the point and organized. Most of yours have unfortunately been quite erratic and as to be mentioned below, filled with nothing but statements.

My statistics are statistics. Your "explanations" are just STATEMENTS which hold no value whatsoever without being backed up by something.

A comparison of number of tourists injured, killed or having had something stolen in America vs. the other countries in the list would be very good if you can get one from a reliable source 👆 .

As for your last sentence................if you can't see how you just buried the argument that the US is safe.....I pray for the future of humanity

Stop bitching at each other. I did start reading all the responses in this thread but they're peppered with petty insults and it got boring. It's like you're using factual information to decorate your swipes at one another, rather than the other way around. It's ridiculous either way nono

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
One of which is incorrect, seeing that as of Tuesday October 18th 2006, America passed 300 million. We aren't near 296 Million people anymore.

If you have more recent ones from a reliable source, please post them 👆

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
One of which is incorrect, seeing that as of Tuesday October 18th 2006, America passed 300 million. We aren't near 296 Million people anymore.

I think my favorite part of all this is how the thread is entitled "Most Dangerous Countries in the World," and Wickerman put America on the list, and now he's stuck whining that just because he put America on the list, and thinks North Carolina is more dangerous then Afghanistan, it doesn't mean he thinks America is all that dangerous, and why can't we understand him?

Originally posted by Syren
Stop bitching at each other. I did start reading all the responses in this thread but they're peppered with petty insults and it got boring. It's like you're using factual information to decorate your swipes at one another, rather than the other way around. It's ridiculous either way nono

Originally posted by silver_tears
I find that statistic slightly ridiculous 🙄

Don't you start, too, Irene!!! 😛 Wow, I quoted a post before it was even made!

You must not have read a post a few pages back where I explain how to use 99.9% percentage terminology.

Originally posted by botankus
Before I even opened the thread, I knew by post #10 that this discussion would be on the US, and the US only. I must be psychic!

Kudos to the people who have no freakin' clue that the US is 99.99% rural farmlands, woodlands, mountain ranges, and subdivisions while just .01% skyscrapers and Boyz N' The Hood shoot-em-up ghettovilles.

I find that statistic slightly ridiculous 🙄

I'd add rural Brazil to that list, although I'm completely biased having seen Turistas.