Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
If she used her gold plated weapons more often she'd probably be more of a force to be reckoned with.
She would only be more invulnerable to Sharp stuff. She can already take light speed punches from superman and Zoom. How much tuffer does she need to be to actually be considered equal?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
She would only be more invulnerable to Sharp stuff. She can already take light speed punches from superman and Zoom. How much tuffer does she need to be to actually be considered equal?
That's a weird durability trait some have. On paper she seems like she should be really powerful. Especially if she uses all her "accessories", teehee. It sounds like she'd do incredible single target damage. Especially with magic weapons. Nothing's more powerful than a weapon made of plot device.
But from what little I know of her, she seems to follow Superman's lead of being a fisticuffs brawler.
I take offense to the notion that she's stronger than J'onn.
Thats the most frustrating thing about DC.
They say one thing, and then show another.
DC says she's second only to Superman. Ie, not quite equal, but in the ballpark.
But they present others, as equals of Superman.
See Orion, J'onn at times, Cap and Black Adam.
So if all these guys are more or less equal to Superman, doesn't that make Diana second to them as well?
She can take wins off many of the characters in the opening post.
Just cause she can't take a clearcut majority, doesn't lessen her overall standing.
She's the most powerful, simultaneously popular woman in comics.
Be happy.
And she's managed that, without being that interesting, imo.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
...wonderwoman just isint that cool of a character.
I can see her beating everyone but Superman and Thor (the Surfer shouldn't even be in this equation 😎). If Martian Manhunter were written to full potential, she'd lose to him too. Not all the time but most of the time (same with Supes and Thor).
I think there's some sexism involved, but it's hardly the dominating factor. That goes to sales and the bottom line.
And, let's face it: the average man is bigger, stronger and faster than the average woman. All else being equal, if they fought, I know where I'd place my bet.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She can beat Superman, just not for the majority.
I will say she can't beat the Silver Surfer or Green Lantern in a forum setting and I do mean she wins 0/10.
Look nvr, WW's situation is different than Thanos's. See the problem with WW is the same as the problem with just about all bricks(especially in DC), they're inconsistent. One day SHE'S second only to Supes, the next Captain Marvel is, then Orion, etc.. The only consistent thing about her really, is that she's in the heavyweight division as far as strength goes. With Thanos on the other hand, he's been consistently shown to be ABOVE Herald level beings in all aspects but speed. Now, we could sit around and debate about who's stronger between him, Darkseid, and Despero all day, because they're all somewhere in the same strength range(just like we could debate about WW and Captain Marvel all day), but there's no real debate about who's stronger between him and Thor or Supes(anymore than there would be about WW and Thing).
And all that should be common knowelege. WW can defeat Superman because just like him, hes top tier. But shes not his equal inside that tier.
I mean, we dont see anyone saying that every top tier around are exactly the same, do we? Its not: Superman = Captain Marvel = Wonder Woman = Thor = Hercules = Hulk = Gladiator = MM = Hyperion = Namor = Wonder Man, is it?
We always place some higher in that tier and some lower. So why the blazes when someone places WW below some (and higher than some) is downplaying "women"? In what way?
So when someone places MM below the likes of WW and Thor in strength (wich is correct in my view), are we pulling a "I hate aliens" card?
Its outrigth bull.
Originally posted by olympian
And all that should be common knowelege. WW can defeat Superman because just like him, hes top tier. But shes not his equal inside that tier.I mean, we dont see anyone saying that every top tier around are exactly the same, do we? Its not: Superman = Captain Marvel = Wonder Woman = Thor = Hercules = Hulk = Gladiator = MM = Hyperion = Namor = Wonder Man, is it?
We always place some higher in that tier and some lower. So why the blazes when someone places WW below some (and higher than some) is downplaying "women"? In what way?
So when someone places MM below the likes of WW and Thor in strength (wich is correct in my view), are we pulling a "I hate aliens" card?
Its outrigth bull.
MM isn't exactly below Her and Thor in strength. He can match them, but only for a few minutes I suppose. But most people have already said the truth. you just hate to admit it. good day. She's not that cool to them AND there is a bit of Woman hateration.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
MM isn't exactly below Her and Thor in strength. He can match them, but only for a few minutes I suppose.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But most people have already said the truth. you just hate to admit it. good day. She's not that cool to them AND there is a bit of Woman hateration.