namor vs storm

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
1) That wasn't an F5 tornado.
2) The field wasn't up, a tornado isn't sufficient to break Magneto's forcefields.
3) Bullets move at Mach 3-5, impacting on relatively minute surface area; Storm's winds do not.

Bullets don't travel with enough force to punch through a moutain. Try shooting a gun at the side of a mountain. Its not going to go very far. STorm's winds has enough force to punch her pressure field through a mountain. Her winds carry much more power than a bullet and her winds have smashed Magneto's force-field an placed a tremendous strain on her magnetic powers. This is canon.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Bullets don't travel with enough force to punch through a moutain. Try shooting a gun at the side of a mountain. Its not going to go very far. STorm's winds has enough force to punch her pressure field through a mountain. Her winds carry much more power than a bullet and her winds have smashed Magneto's force-field an placed a tremendous strain on her magnetic powers. This is canon.

Uh..."Storm's winds has enough force to punch her pressure field through a mountain"? What does this mean exactly?

Methinks you're overestimating Storm's wind power juuuuuust a teense. 🙄

I'm not even going to go into the many reasons why Namor wins because it's been discussed over and over again. Just well, know that Namor wins. 😐

I think the scan showed her winds traveling in a ball around her, like Sonic the Hedgehog or something, and it ground a tunnel for her.

N-A-M-O-R W-I-N-S

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All I had to do was establish her control over water.

You didn't establish anything, stop giving yourself credit.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Sorry, it was canon when Storm lifted tens of thousands/hundreds of thousands of tons. That was in Contest of Champions 2. She lifted that skyscraper. What you are referring to that was not canon was when she moved thousands of tons of rocks with her winds in a crossover with DC written by CC. Well, that does not matter because if she can lift the skyscraper, then she can also move thousands of tons of rocks.

In regards to the water droplets thing, okay, you have a point. It was that, not molecules, but it still gives her the power to will the water off of Namor. All I had to do was establish her control over water.

She doesn't have fine control of water, she cannot make a giant Poseidon-figure out of water and threaten to crush Manhattan like Ult. Namor did.

She didn't "punch through a mountain." It was a hollowed out iceberg base, she had already made a hole using lightning in it on the X-Men's way in, when they left she shielded them from some falling debris from the already crumbling base, then exited the hollowed out iceberg possibly through the same hole, possibly not.

She has not smashed Magneto's forcefield, except in your deluded mind.

Namor wins.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She braced a building, that didn't have sufficient height to be referred to as a skyscraper. Spider-Man has done the same thing.

She doesn't have fine control of water, she cannot make a giant Poseidon-figure out of water and threaten to crush Manhattan like Ult. Namor did.

She didn't "punch through a mountain." It was a hollowed out iceberg base, she had already made a hole using lightning in it on the X-Men's way in, when they left she shielded them from some falling debris from the already crumbling base, then exited the hollowed out iceberg possibly through the same hole, possibly not.

She has not smashed Magneto's forcefield, except in your deluded mind.

Namor wins.

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Storm's powers work faster than Magneto's

Not having expert control over water = NO control over water?????

She makes it rain in an instant, doesn't she??? That's tremendous psionic control over water. Think of the ramifications for making a rain storm.

Can Namor make it rain???

Her winds are strong enough to "brace" thousands of tons, not lift them??? What a difference 🙄

Does Namor weigh thousands of tons??? Nope, not even a fraction of that. He'd probably be moved by her weakest winds.

Storm can do whatever she wants with the winds on earth.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm's powers work faster than Magneto's

Fraid not, fanboy.

Lorna Dane. A poor man's Magneto.

She beats Storm too.

Her winds are strong enough to "brace" thousands of tons, not lift them??? What a difference

You can brace a safe.

You can't lift it above your head.
that's the difference, kid.

Lorna Dane. A poor man's Magneto.

She beats Storm too.

edit: Do you have the scan where she beats Storm? I want to see how it went down.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
He'd probably be moved by her weakest winds.

Originally posted by What If...
edit: Do you have the scan where she beats Storm? I want to see how it went down.

She did not brace the building, she lifted it in the air. Torch lured Storm to the parking lot beneath the skyscraper and destroyed the support for the entire building so that it would fall on Storm. The issue stated blatantly that he burned the support for the entire building. That means there was nothing holding it up so Storm had to summon winds in that split second before the building fell on her capable of lifting/supporting the building. Try again.

Here is the scan to the mountain thing.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/...uredome14ac.jpg

As you can see, it was no iceberg. It was made up of rock. It was merely coated with ice as many mountains are.

As for Storm breaking Magneto's force-field, it happened in Uncanny 150. He had his force-field up, she summoned her winds, and knocked it down.

Oh, and Storm clobbers Polaris. This is silly. They fought early when Storm first joined the team and Lorna was under the control of Eric the Red. When Polaris can do things like alter the eco-system across and hemisphere, then you can talk Storm vs. Polaris. Otherwise, don't bring it up. Storm can draw upon far more energy than either Polaris or Magneto (when he is not aided by outside enhancements). A fight between Storm and either one of these two would come down to who can utilize most of the Earth's resources. The answer is easily Storm. Neither character has ever moved that much energy as Ororo.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I don't recall if they've fought.

They did, Storm actually won.

Originally posted by Rutog98
She did not brace the building, she lifted it in the air. Torch lured Storm to the parking lot beneath the skyscraper and destroyed the support for the entire building so that it would fall on Storm. The issue stated blatantly that he burned the support for the entire building. That means there was nothing holding it up so Storm had to summon winds in that split second before the building fell on her capable of lifting/supporting the building. Try again.

Here is the scan to the mountain thing.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/...uredome14ac.jpg

As you can see, it was no iceberg. It was made up of rock. It was merely coated with ice as many mountains are.

As for Storm breaking Magneto's force-field, it happened in Uncanny 150. He had his force-field up, she summoned her winds, and knocked it down.

Oh, and Storm clobbers Polaris. This is silly. They fought early when Storm first joined the team and Lorna was under the control of Eric the Red. When Polaris can do things like alter the eco-system across and hemisphere, then you can talk Storm vs. Polaris. Otherwise, don't bring it up. Storm can draw upon far more energy than either Polaris or Magneto (when he is not aided by outside enhancements). A fight between Storm and either one of these two would come down to who can utilize most of the Earth's resources. The answer is easily Storm. Neither character has ever moved that much energy as Ororo.

Spider-Man is not lifting it.
HT knocked out load bearing structures, she offered structural support. She did not lift it.

Image does not exist. I've seen it anyway.
This is the environment of Fitzroy's base:

Maybe not an iceberg, but hardly a mountain.

Seen UXM 150 too. Only you believe she can breach his forcefield. No one else. And let's face it we both know you're a giant raging screaming fanboy.

Hooray a decades old fight.
This is Polaris as she is now (or was before HoM, after which her powers are supposed to have been upgraded):

She can lift skyscrapers.

Power output? Blood enema. Polaris kills Storm. Just as Namor kills Storm.

Originally posted by batdude123
Without question considering:

A) He's created storms that are beyond her weather manipulating abilities:

http://img484.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenv208607rougherqb1.jpg

and

B) He thinks and reacts 1450% faster than normal humans do:

http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenunlimted0023839mw8.jpg

This is a very silly joke, right? It worked. I'm laughing! In that issue where he "created a storm beyond her power," his powers were augmented by a machine and the storm they were referring to was an electromagnetic energy. Storm controls the energies in the EM spectrum as we see later in this same arc where she is controlling those energies in his tower.

For those saying that Storm did not smash Magneto's force-field in Uncanny 150, can you please scan and post the panels starting where Storm blasted through the roof and assaulted him with lightning to where Magneto hit her with Colossus and show me in which panel did it show that Magneto took his force-field down? This is silly and desperate on your side's part. LOL!

It was a mountain. What else would you call that kind of land structure?

Please don't post the Spiderman thing. It has no bearing here. Post the Storm thing. Those winds lifted the building in the air! Storm was flying in the air beneath the building which means the building was lifted. Also, the issue stated that HT destroyed the support of the entire building. Your Spiderman thing did not prove anything here. Its not relevant. The issue stated very cleary that her winds supported that building (which means it can sustain that weight) and that her winds are also strong enough to level mountains.

Originally posted by Rutog98
It was a mountain. What else would you call that kind of land structure?

Originally posted by Rutog98
Please don't post the Spiderman thing. It has no bearing here. Post the Storm thing. Those winds lifted the building in the air! Storm was flying in the air beneath the building which means the building was lifted. Also, the issue stated that HT destroyed the support of the entire building. Your Spiderman thing did not prove anything here. Its not relevant. The issue stated very cleary that her winds supported that building (which means it can sustain that weight) and that her winds are also strong enough to level mountains.