Originally posted by Wally WestOhhh, I agree, and I'm not saying Thanos is the decisive winner or anything.
Who knows, but I think Warlock with 5 gems could do something in the same time it takes Thanos to use his gem, Warlock has more experience with the gems than even Thanos.
But would you agree that it's certainly not a curbstomp in anyones' favor?
Originally posted by breeze85The Soul Gem HAS betrayed Warlock in the past, so it is very plausible that it could in fact betray him again.
Saying that Soul Gem could betray Warlock in this fight is like saying LT would intervene if someone possessed more than a single Gem. There is no third party here, no plot at all. Therefore Warlock wins this fight every damned time.
Originally posted by celestialdemonAgain, I'm not saying Thanos can take this, but what can Warlock do if Thanos stops time, and travels in the past?
Warlock for the spank. I can't see Thanos winning this battle in any way whatsoever. Hell, we saw what 5 gems could do with the Magus, and he was missing the reality gem.
Originally posted by Galan007
The Soul Gem HAS betrayed Warlock in the past, so it is very plausible to assume that it could in fact betray him again.
Seems like you don't understand. Yes it has done that but it wouldn't happen here. Let me explain why.
If we allowed such interaction and details it wouldn't work here at all. For example, if someone started a team fight. Superman and Darkseid versus Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter. Should we go on and assume that Superman would betray Darkseid and team up with WW and MM to give Darkseid a beating for greater good and just because he doesn't like Darkseid?
IG Warlock versus anybody. Should we assume that LT would intervene and separate the Infinity Gems?
And so the list goes on.
The answer is NO. Such interaction just won't count. It's just silly to even come up with such.
Originally posted by celestialdemonHe could only effect outcomes in the present, he can not effect the past.
Warlock controls reality backed by the power gem. He could just as easily cause the time gem to not work or rewrite how the time gem works.
Originally posted by breeze85Ahhh I see, even though it's happened on pannel, and shown that it IS possible, it dosen't count.
Seems like you don't understand. Yes it has done that but it wouldn't happen here. Let me explain why.If we allowed such interaction and details it wouldn't work here at all. For example, if someone started a team fight. Superman and Darkseid versus Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter. Should we go on and assume that Superman would betray Darkseid and team up with WW and MM to give Darkseid a beating for greater good and just because he doesn't like Darkseid?
IG Warlock versus anybody. Should we assume that LT would intervene and separate the Infinity Gems?
And so the list goes on.
The answer is NO. Such interaction just won't count. It's just silly to even come up with such.
Regardless, what can Warlock realistically do if Thanos stops time, and travels into the past?
Originally posted by celestialdemonThe Gems can't affect how the others work.
When this battle starts, they are in the present. In the time it takes for Thanos to use the gem to get to the past, Warlock can prevent the gem from working or alter how the gem works.
And all Thanos has to do is go back in time to avoid Warlock
Originally posted by Galan007
The Gems can't affect how the others work.
Really? Then how is it that the Time Gen was able to freeze all the other gem holders from using their gems? And before you say because it was only freezing the people and not the gems, how is it that Warlock made it so Moondragon's Mind Gem would not allow her to read the minds of the other gem holders?
Originally posted by celestialdemonRune stopped time, him doing this didn't affect the power of the gems at all.
Really? Then how is it that the Time Gen was able to freeze all the other gem holders from using their gems?
Originally posted by celestialdemonThe Soul Gem is a different story all together, and to be honest I did forget about that particular incident. But if Warlock could have stopped Rune from using his Gem, he certainly would have when they battled.
And before you say because it was only freezing the people and not the gems, how is it that Warlock made it so Moondragon's Mind Gem would not allow her to read the minds of the other gem holders?
My point is that if time is stopped, or Thanos is in the past, what good is that ability anyway?
I do think Warlock may win the majority, but people are so quick to cry curbstomp. That's just not the case.
Originally posted by Galan007
Ahhh I see, even though it's happened on pannel, and shown that it IS possible, it dosen't count.
So, now, every time someone is fighting with a complete IG we should assume that it's possible (most likely) for Living Tribunal to intervene and stop the madness? Just because "it's happened on pannel, and shown that it IS possible". Great! This is the case with every fight then. Remember people!
Honestly. Exactly for the reasons I mentioned this kind of third-party interaction isn't possible here. It would mess everything. I didn't think even you, Galan007, could be so out of your mind.