Dr Strange vs the GLs/Supermen/Flashes

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
To clarify (even though it's generally assumed anyway, and I specifically stated it) prep can only be used to perform defensive actions. Time travelling is not a defensive action.

Time travelling in order to secure a more abundant source of artifacts for the fight at hand could certainly be viewed as defensive.

Obviously, though, we cannot allow time manipulators to do so during prep time, because that would then make ANY amount of prep time limitless for said characters.

Even doom or reed could use their time machines, and then have 5 minutes preparation be equivalent to unending decades.

Scary thought.

Originally posted by Validus
Well I guess X just found out exactly how overrated Strange is.

Originally posted by Soljer
Time travelling in order to secure a more abundant source of artifacts for the fight at hand could certainly be viewed as defensive.

Obviously, though, we cannot allow time manipulators to do so during prep time, because that would then make ANY amount of prep time limitless for said characters.

Even doom or reed could use their time machines, and then have 5 minutes preparation be equivalent to unending decades.

Scary thought.

If you give Reed Richards 30 min prep, it's unspoken but assumed that he can't use his tech to stop time and have a lifetime's worth or that he can't go back in time and kill his opponent. 5 minutes means 5 minutes. Otherwise an ordinary man with one minute's prep and a time machine can beat a crap load of people they have no business fighting.

Yeah.

Majestic was a perfect example of that.

See a Majestic respect thread, but miss how low his durability is for a top tier.

Chaos ensues.

Well originally this thread was going to be Dr Strange vs Oa -- all 7,200 GLs, add Sentinel for fun, oh and all the Guardians -- with no prep... just out of curiosity for what people would say...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Well originally this thread was going to be Dr Strange vs Oa -- all 7,200 GLs, add Sentinel for fun, oh and all the Guardians -- with no prep... just out of curiosity for what people would say...

....

Now, that's not nice.

I'm on the other Santa list... 😖hifty:

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm on the other Santa list... 😖hifty:

Care to prove it to me? 😖hifty:

😉.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
Why is he being overrated?

Originally posted by Madvillain
i hardly think someone that can assume the role of Eternity can be described as overrated.

he pwns this team with prep. easily.

A moment of silence for the fallen Dr. Strange. He gets slaughtered.

Originally posted by Evangel94
He's around Herald level with no prep.

With prep he's a monster. With his prepartaion of all his artifacts in his mystic sanctum, he was able to stalemate Thanos with the Inifinity Gauntlet for a short amount of time.

He isn't invincible though. Because he has to call on entities to give him power, he doesn't have much personal reserves of his own. Sorcerors like Loki, who have their own personal power reserves, can and have overwhelmed Dr. Strange.

Also people are hyping up his time manipulation. 😬 It's not like he does it on a daily basis or everytime he fights someone. Averages count for something people.

Strange's time manipulation isn't overrated, it's not even underused. He's done it at least 30 times. He's snapped his fingers and stopped time, walked up to a guy and took his weapon THEN he started time up again. Again, as he's said himself, he does NOT like manipulating time because it can **** up an entire universe, hence...he doesn't do it a lot.

Loki wouldn't ever beat Strange, that's silly. Loki, with prep and surprise and the fact that Strange had no clue who he was or if he was a bad guy, got lightly roughed up but he ended up stalemating Loki. Strange has had 2000 power ups since.

But really, not many people have ever seen full potential Strange because he follows universal rules and he's got morals. A full potential Strange would use his mastery over black and white magic. Natural Gaen magic. Chaos magic. Catastrophe Magic. SCIENCE (yes, science based) magic. And so on.

The Strange you read in comics is maybe 1/3 as powerful as he would be if he was bloodlusted.

Originally posted by db_renji
A moment of silence for the fallen Dr. Strange. He gets slaughtered.

Hell, Strange is on a level so high you can't beat him honestly until you kill his soul, and his soul is protected by Eternity. Sooo....yep.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
To clarify (even though it's generally assumed anyway, and I specifically stated it) prep can only be used to perform defensive actions. Time travelling is not a defensive action.

IBD. Time stopping? Transmuting? Soul Stealing? Are those allowed?

Originally posted by Validus
Well I guess X just found out exactly how overrated Strange is.

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Originally posted by long pig
No, no. Lots of wrongness here. Strange has nearly an entire universe of reserved magical power inside him that he's absorbed. He's went to alternate dimensions and completely drained the whole dimension of any ambient energy.

Strange's time manipulation isn't overrated, it's not even underused. He's done it at least 30 times. He's snapped his fingers and stopped time, walked up to a guy and took his weapon THEN he started time up again. Again, as he's said himself, he does NOT like manipulating time because it can **** up an entire universe, hence...he doesn't do it a lot.

Loki wouldn't ever beat Strange, that's silly. Loki, with prep and surprise and the fact that Strange had no clue who he was or if he was a bad guy, got lightly roughed up but he ended up stalemating Loki. Strange has had 2000 power ups since.

But really, not many people have ever seen full potential Strange because he follows universal rules and he's got morals. A full potential Strange would use his mastery over black and white magic. Natural Gaen magic. Chaos magic. Catastrophe Magic. SCIENCE (yes, science based) magic. And so on.

The Strange you read in comics is maybe 1/3 as powerful as he would be if he was bloodlusted.

Um Long Pig, I love ya in all but a weakened Loki was completely dominating Strange. Strange was saved by Thor before he was killed.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Um Long Pig, I love ya in all but a weakened Loki was completely dominating Strange. Strange was saved by Thor before he was killed.

And an incredibly empowered Loki was stalemated by Strange.

Originally posted by long pig
Erm, oh. Didn't see that

IBD. Time stopping? Transmuting? Soul Stealing? Are those allowed?

The rest are allowed but only after the actual fight begins.

Strange is getting very overrated here.You guys talk like Gls couldn't stop time..

as far as THIS list goes, i dont think anyone on it is out of stranges leauge

i assume the thread creator ment that they are all being fought individually

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Well originally this thread was going to be Dr Strange vs Oa -- all 7,200 GLs, add Sentinel for fun, oh and all the Guardians -- with no prep... just out of curiosity for what people would say...

Well, wtf were you thinking? He gets eaten alive for christ's sake.