Originally posted by Victor Von DoomI don't have or need to post old sources......I live in the Metro(well, just north of it) area and I remember what was in the News papers and what everyone was talking about and also what was on the TV news, and how the school boards were bombarded with angry parents for even considering it..........Do your own research.
That's how I feel when you post, you silly, silly illiterate person.Does someone actually have a source for this?
Or is everybody just going to start foaming at the mouth because of something someone heard, which even if true, would not affect them personally?
Originally posted by Evil Dead
I disagree. "Ebonics" is ignorance, plain and simple. It is not a dialect nor an accent. The mispronunciation of words could be considered a accent or dialect. Player sounds like playa....door knob sounds like doe knob. This is akin to southerners saying fishin instead of fishing or huntin instead of hunting. That, however, has nothing to do with the complete butchering of the basic parts of speech. Some person stating, "I am going to class" is correct English grammar while someone stating, "yo nigga, I <b>IS</b> headed to da class" is fundamentally incorrect..........due to ignorance of correct English grammar brought on by poor education.
It could technically be called a dialect but not an accent. An accent is difference in pronunciation only, but dialect includes both pronunciation and grammar. Just like when Southerners say "might could" or "might should" or use the word "mighty" to denote emphasis as in "a mighty long time".
To call Ebonics ignorant, and not acknowledge it as a legitimate dialect/variation of the English language is a very white-centric thing to do. It would actually be ignorant to declare all the various regional dialects and ethnolects around the US as "ignorant and uneducated".
Originally posted by Evil Dead
so if "ebonics" is the language used by ebony (black) people......does that mean Bryant Gumble, Jesse Jackson and Will Smith are all white? The very idea that the color of a person's skin has anything to do with their level of intelligence is just retarded.
Well just look at Bryant Gumble's job; he's an news anchorman, so of course he's not allowed to talk Ebonics. TV anchorpersons all have to speak with a Mid-Western accent. You have no idea how he speaks when he's at home and not in front of a camera.
A lot of African-Americans are bi-dialectal, in that they speak like white people when they're around white people. The same actually applies to me; I don't speak Calé (Spanglish) when I'm hanging out with a bunch of white people. If want to, I can talk like a middle-class whiteboy from the burbs, but I don't because that isn't my natural speaking accent.
Originally posted by Quiero MotaI'm anything but racist. 🙄
^ That sounded like a racist's rant.Ebonics is just another variant of the English language, just like any other accent or dialect. It's by no means an "abomination".
Like Evil Dead said, mispronouncing words and using improper grammar is not an 'accent' or 'dialect.' It's ignorance, plain and simple. People who use it in everyday conversation obviously have no desire to advance themselves.