Surfer has made not directly dough, 3 beings capable of thinking independently and possess near equal in power as him.. You were referring to Hal making the JLA whose to say there strength is equal to that of the real one maybe its just as powerfull as there construct.. Then there was Kyle who made those dead GL corps well thats uber not all GL is capable off that and whose to say he didnt have a portion of jades powers in him since he was from the future..
Originally posted by tdawg14
Nvr, you are completely lost. The Surfer takes any GL besides from Ion or Parallax at least 7/10.
And thus the fanboyism starts. A NON Jobbing GL beats Surfer Anytime. A non Jobbing GL can do ANYTHING THEY CAN THINK OF. How would the surfer do against KYLE who created and army of free thinking Gl's? NOt good at all.
Originally posted by K3VIL
This is one sided and unfair.New Nova is a one man cosmic army, SS is so strong he survived a fight with GALACTUS Equals, yes, he was down, but alive.JLA with that small roster is losing.Supes gets drained of solar energy, and Diana beaten down real bad tough with honor.
I already said it was mostly onesided and unfair. And when I put up a better match, no one wanted to visit it. BEcuz it was too even. THe Only one who really can hang is Hal jordan. Now if Superman had a good sundip and WW was allowed some of her Weapons, it would be very even.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And thus the fanboyism starts. A NON Jobbing GL beats Surfer Anytime. A non Jobbing GL can do ANYTHING THEY CAN THINK OF. How would the surfer do against KYLE who created and army of free thinking Gl's? NOt good at all.
Originally posted by Roldz
A non-jobbing SS would plow over those Gl construct and beside what makes you think Kyle would have enough time to make those guys, i mean SS has gone so fast that it twisted reality (time and space), Kyle gets blitz before even realizing the other half of his body is at the end of time... If you wanna talk about high feats non beats SS speed and those auto shield couldnt stop an amp SS going at incalculable speed.. SS is equal or maybe even rivals that of any Lanterns..
Surfer went mad Asborbing the power of ONE sun. GL can contain the power of a big bang. BIgBang>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>One Sun.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Surfer went mad Asborbing the power of ONE sun. GL can contain the power of a big bang. BIgBang>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>One Sun.
Surfer ABSORBED the sun...GL CONTAINED it. There's a really big difference there. Superman cant even absorb the power of the sun, so what in the hell are you talking about- it would even kill him. Besides Surfer has survived a blackhole before. Big deal.
Unless Kyle has warp-speed fast reaction times, he gets speedblitzed into oblivion.
Cosmics win 10/10
Originally posted by Madvillain
Surfer ABSORBED the sun...GL CONTAINED it. There's a really big difference there. Superman cant even absorb the power of the sun, so what in the hell are you talking about- it would even kill him. Besides Surfer has survived a blackhole before. Big deal.Unless Kyle has warp-speed fast reaction times, he gets speedblitzed into oblivion.
Cosmics win 10/10
The ring has faster than Warp Speed Reaction Times. you missed the entire point about surfer and the sun. Surfer went mad from absorbing the power of one little star. And Kyly Contained all the energy of a big bang. Let it sink in. Big Bang>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sun. Surfer isn't speed blizting anyone .You act as if the GL's haven't stopped time before. Even the surfer can't do that. How's he gonna speed if he's not moving? A non jobbing GL can Peel Surfer right out of that Tin coat.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The ring has faster than Warp Speed Reaction Times. you missed the entire point about surfer and the sun. Surfer went mad from absorbing the power of one little star. And Kyly Contained all the energy of a big bang. Let it sink in. Big Bang>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sun. Surfer isn't speed blizting anyone .You act as if the GL's haven't stopped time before. Even the surfer can't do that. How's he gonna speed if he's not moving? A non jobbing GL can Peel Surfer right out of that Tin coat.
Who is talking about the rings reaction time? Kyle still has very human reaction times, despite whatever powers the ring may possess. He will get his head speedblitzed right of his shoulders.
And your still not getting the difference between absorbing something and cotaining something. They are two different things. Again, not even Superman can absorb an entire sun.
Again, stopping time is moot, because Kyle has very human reactions. He gets speedblitzed. End of.
Originally posted by Madvillain
[QUOTE=8032347]Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
[B]The ring has faster than Warp Speed Reaction Times. you missed the entire point about surfer and the sun. Surfer went mad from absorbing the power of one little star. And Kyly Contained all the energy of a big bang. Let it sink in. Big Bang>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sun. Surfer isn't speed blizting anyone .You act as if the GL's haven't stopped time before. Even the surfer can't do that. How's he gonna speed if he's not moving? A non jobbing GL can Peel Surfer right out of that Tin coat. [/QUOTEWho is talking about the rings reaction time? Kyle still has very human reaction times, despite whatever powers the ring may possess. He will get his head speedblitzed right of his shoulders.
And your still not getting the difference between absorbing something and cotaining something. They are two different things. Again, not even Superman can absorb an entire sun.
Again, stopping time is moot, because Kyle has very human reactions. He gets speedblitzed. End of. [/B]
Surfer has NEVER shown the kind of speed your talking about in a fight. So please just stop lying. Kyle's ring was so powerful, he created the COSMIC abstract entity known as Oblivion. Surfer loses. Sorry bud.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Surfer has NEVER shown the kind of speed your talking about in a fight. So please just stop lying.
lol so speedblitzing requires some sort of fighting skills to go along with it??? he just has to fly through his freaking skull. not much skill involved in that.
speedblitz>kyle's reaction time.
Originally posted by Madvillain
lol so speedblitzing requires some sort of fighting skills to go along with it??? he just has to fly through his freaking skull. not much skill involved in that.speedblitz>kyle's reaction time.
What part of The rings wont allow that to happen are you missing ? Geez you are so rediculous. The surfer really can't fly any faster than Any Gl. They can go as fast as they need to.
Originally posted by Madvillain
uh huh.still gets speedblitzed though. sucks, doesnt it?
And yet surfer has gotten hit by waaay slower beings than a Gl. Kinda makes you wonder where you get this idea that Surfer speed blitzes anyone. Show me one Panel where the surfer speed blitzes anyone like that. Surfer has this awesome Speed you talk about but can't dodge the Hulks first, Or Storm's Lighting, Or any of a billion other slower beings who have hit him.
Originally posted by Madvillain
So? Slade has hit Flash before? Big frickin deal lolol.Makes no sense.
Kyle still gets speedblitzed.
LOl and you say this with not one shred of evidence or even sighting one time the surfer has EVER did this to anyone he has fought. Your lying. Sufer can't speed blitz anyone like that. Besides, The rings can track energy signatures like the surfers. Kyle doesn't need to have reaction speed when the ring wil track approachng bogy and auto shield kyle.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOl and you say this with not one shred of evidence or even sighting one time the surfer has EVER did this to anyone he has fought. Your lying. Sufer can't speed blitz anyone like that. Besides, The rings can track energy signatures like the surfers. Kyle doesn't need to have reaction speed when the ring wil track approachng bogy and auto shield kyle.
you think an auto-shield would stop a speedblitzing surfer...someone who has base strength of CL 100?
well that still doesnt matter since he wouldnt even see Surfer approaching.
Surfer wins via speedblitz.